This is HORRIBLE! I’m a Patriotic Republican and don’t know why it’s Horrible Yet but Biden did it so it’s BAD!!
more domestic production is great
It’s very impressive that they got such a modern process up and running in such a relatively short period of time. I understand the Arizona location is relatively new.
Yeah, they’re essentially doing trials where Arizona fab provides small amounts of sillicon that’s being validated against what Taiwan fab does. While it was planned for 2024 I’m guessing everyone thought it would be delayed. It’s quite a big win for US, they’re on track to secure domestic supply of fairly modern chips in case shit hits the fan in Taiwan.
And they managed to do that with those lazy US workers? Wow.
E: folks, pls look up TSMC bosses’ statements on American workers’ ethic
Also, if interested, check out this documentary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Factory. Has a lot of interesting crosstalk between Chinese/American views on work and business.
Anybody know if this has anything to do with Biden’s Chips and Sciences program?
Yes. So far, the CHIPS Act has resulted in $6.6b in direct funding and an additional $5b in available loans for the AZ facility.
That’s great but, honest question: why?
E: LOL downvotes for asking a question. Never change Lemmy.
We’ve spent the last few decades outsourcing key industries, where US no longer has as much manufacturing and we’re way too dependent on other countries. It took supply chain disruptions from COViD to realize how much of a bad idea that was.
We’re finally trying to recapture some of those key jobs, industries, supply chains, dependencies, starting with chips and renewable energy. THANKS, BIDEN! this is what will make America great again
Because the U.S. government gave them $6.6 billion to do it under the CHIPS Act: https://www.reuters.com/technology/tsmc-wins-66-bln-us-subsidy-arizona-chip-production-2024-04-08/
With TSMC, it’s insurance against China invading Taiwan but Intel (and probably everyone else) got a load of subsidies too. After the chip shortage during the pandemic and Russia invading Ukraine, chip production became a national security issue.
Yeah that’s been my least favourite experience with Lemmy.
Many replies are hostile and highly opinionated.
I don’t have an answer for your question but it was a good question and it made me curious.
I’m in favour of domestic production but I would always want more information about it.
From a business perspective: more control over the manufacturing process and less risk of getting hit by tariffs
How does being in the US give you more control over manufacturing?
Tariffs are not new.
Multiple sources of production.
We learned during concentrating all of your production in one small country wasn’t a good idea. Plus having multiple sources has always been suggested in case anything goes wrong with one company you can still have some production.
Sure but there are other countries that also have cheaper manufacturing rates.
Those countries probably didn’t pay 5.5 billion dollars for TSMC to build a new facility in their country.
And are susceptible to interference. Samsung is also building huge manufacturing infrastructure in the US.
Apple wants to cut down on counterfeiting. The US wants to prevent supply chain issues and reduce reliance on foreign chip production. The wiki article on the CHIPS Act is a pretty good overview: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act
Uhh. Who’s counterfeiting a cpu that only basically 2 factories in the world can make? Functional fakes are a thing for some really basic chips but an apple arm cpu seems like a little much.
Perhaps unauthorized is a better word than counterfeit. The manufacturing process for CPUs often yields less than ideal chips. Perhaps they don’t hit the clock speed they’re supposed to, or maybe they consume too much power. Those chips are supposed to be discarded, but they often find their way to the black market. Sometimes those chips aren’t even failures. If a fab overproduces, they’re not just going to give Apple the extra chips. These are the things Apple worries about, and they view it as far less likely to happen if those chips are made in the US.
I should also point out that the CPU isn’t the only chip that TSMC makes for Apple. Apple wants to make sure they’re getting a cut of every replacement part that gets sold. You can’t even swap screens on two brand new iPhones without Apple giving you a hard time.
