Despite Americans paying nearly double that of other nations, the US fares poorly in list of 10 countries

The United States health system ranked dead last in an international comparison of 10 peer nations, according to a new report by the Commonwealth Fund.

In spite of Americans paying nearly double that of other countries, the system performed poorly on health equity, access to care and outcomes.

“I see the human toll of these shortcomings on a daily basis,” said Dr Joseph Betancourt, the president of the Commonwealth Fund, a foundation with a focus on healthcare research and policy.

The fund said the US would need to expand insurance coverage and make “meaningful” improvements on the amount of healthcare expenses patients pay themselves; minimize the complexity and variation in insurance plans to improve administrative efficiency; build a viable primary care and public health system; and invest in social wellbeing, rather than thrust problems of social inequity onto the health system.

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Not defending the broken US healthcare system but this article is shit when it includes firearm deaths and opioid overdoses into its metrics to grade the overall healthcare system.

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Oddly, it seems to be causing deaths. What’re the odds?

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You think firearm deaths indicate a poor healthcare system?

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Mental health is health, and treatment for these conditions are healthcare.

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Why is that?

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Those are both mental health issues, as well as the latter being failure of the medical system to limit access. (As well as the unrelated easy access to firearms issue.)

Mental healthcare in the US is terrible by itself, and is under the healthcare umbrella.

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Shocking. “Best health care system in the world,” my ass. “You’ll have to wait months if there’s universal healthcare.” Bitch, I have to wait months now.

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Who has ever said that? You guys have no healthcare. It’s literally a joke to anyone outside of US.

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Our politicians and pundits say it all the time.

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Not a high bar if they’re also saying immigratns are eating People’s pets.

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They always bring up Canadians having to wait for long periods of time at the emergency room.

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Wendell Potter spent decades scaring Americans. About Canada. He worked for the health insurance industry, and he knew that if Americans understood Canadian-style health care, they might … like it. So he helped deploy an industry playbook for protecting the health insurance agency.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925354134/frame-canada

Here’s an archived piece Wendell wrote for WaPo about what he did and how he did it.

The health care scare: I sold Americans a lie about Canadian medicine. Now we’re paying the price.

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You’re wrong but not in the way you think. It’s also a joke to everyone inside the US, except billionaires. Billionaires love it

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I had my primary care doctor retire. The gigantic hospital system with which they work put all existing patients in as new patients for the incoming doctor. It has been 18 months and I’m still waiting for the new patient visit. Fighting to even get maintainance medications filled has been crazy because I keep being told “I have to see my doctor.” Circular logic abounds.

The gigantic system makes it so I cannot directly contact the office, it is all hurry up and wait through their patient portal systems which require 24-48 hours for response time. Can’t go to the doctors office to complain without an appointment.

This system is working optimally for someone. It is not us.

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Avg hospital CEO earns $649,198 to $1,093,977 in my state of NC.

That’s who the system is working for. Additionally, all it’s share holders.

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Healthcare beholden to shareholders should be the gigantic warning sign.

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“You’ll have to wait months if there’s universal healthcare.”

Yeah, but that healthcare is still practically guaranteed, and it won’t put you into debt

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Several times I’ve had to wait for months on healthcare in the US system. This is such a weak argument against a socialized system.

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Not only have I had to wait months, but then the doctor will argue with you and gaslight you about your fucking symptoms. Here’s a $200 bill for 5 minutes discussion and being told I am actually fine and not having the symptoms I’m having and even if I was they don’t want to do treatment because it’s too painful and difficult and so testing is pointless too since they won’t treat.

I am TRULY TRULY fine with the day doctors lose their jobs to AI. I genuinely wish I could have an AI primary care doctor now. Or even just a veterinarian, because vets aren’t taught to gaslight their fucking patients.

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Literally anything I want done is a wait list here. Eye exam; schedule a time. Dentist; is it an emergency? We’ll schedule you sometime next month. Phycologist; its a theee month wait list. Primary care; see you in three months. Finding a reliable primary care has been a dead end nightmare.

I’m not shitting on doctors or nurses. Just this whole system is bonkers. For what reason? Healthcare is not a business.

“In capitalism everything’s a buisness.” Well get fucked.

I’m not saying we should be reductive. There is reasons for the way we do things. I am saying though, we’ve gone too far and it’s obscuring the goal of a having a functional society.

People need professionals to help with their health; an extremely complex field. Every person needs this. Its not an optional thing. You want a society, well a society needs people, and people need Healthcare.

“Well I never wanted to be part of a society.” Did you enjoy the luxury that having a society provides? From plumbing to super yatchs, all of this wealth we share was made by people like you and me.

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My insurance bumped up the copay on primary care to make it less affordable than an urgent care visit, incentivizing us to get care with immense surcharges. But at least we can get a same-day appointment instead of waiting a month or two to see the most qualified and familiar person with our conditions. Fuck capitalism, as usual.

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Get everyone to use the ERs and clinics which pay doctors less. Think there’s a reason for that?

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Israel can afford universal healthcare. But the United States? Where would we ever find the money for that?

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The UK did it immediately after WW2 when our economy was destroyed. We were in much debt, we didn’t finish paying America back until 2006. However, apparently, the country we paid all that money to cant afford it?

You have to admire the brazennes of the lie though.

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When we find the military and give weapons to countries like Israel and many others across the world, it raises the stock prices of military contractors and congress gets more personal wealth.

A public option for healthcare would lower stock prices for health care companies and insurance companies which congress is also heavily invested in.

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Its better than Canada’s…

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That’s some medical grade bullshit. Please seek medical attention if you can afford it.

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I waited less in American hospitals than in Canadian hospitals for care

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Literally isn’t.

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