“I’m a gun owner; Tim Walz is a gun owner,” Harris said.
“I did not know that,” Winfrey replied.
“If somebody breaks into my house, they’re getting shot,” Harris added. “Probably should not have said that. But my staff will deal with that later.”
The article has a video clip. I love the bullshit “probably…” It’s a 100% certainty she spoke with her staff and workshopped the phrasing and presentation of gun stuff. Plus I bet she practiced her lines. No American politician is going to wing it when talking about guns.
ITT we conclusively prove that hexbear doesn’t read the articles
Definitely a weird way to pander to the right, but whatever.
The thing is, I can sort of agree? If someone breaks into my home at night while I am asleep, I’m not going to stop and ask questions about their intentions. I will assume they are here to do me and mine harm, and I will react accordingly, which very likely means shooting them. Breaking into someone’s home at 3am is very different from trying to rifle through the shit in their car. But fantasizing about it on Oprah is fucking crazy, even for a politician.
“take what you want and leave” just generously assumes that what they want isn’t to hurt you
Why should that change when the TV gets moved to your house
Stores have insurance for shit, how many people have “burglar coverage”? Most people don’t have infinite wealth to just let walk out their front door
“take what you want and leave” just generously assumes that what they want isn’t to hurt you
It’s not generous to assume what is easily the most plausible interpretation. Unless it’s like a gang hit or something (including by cops), who the fuck wants to brutalize an entire family? That happened one time in Cheshire, CT and conservatives the whole country over have been milking it for a decade and a half.
how many people have “burglar coverage”?
lol
Take your family into one room and guard the door with your gun pointed at it, announce you are armed, and wait for them to leave.
The strongest doors in your house are the exterior doors. Those are the doors I’m going to be behind.
Anyone willing to come through the tough exterior doors into an occupied structure can be reasonably presumed to be willing to go through a cardboard-thin interior door into an occupied room.
Waiting for them to break down the door demonstrates I value their lives much more than they do. I’m not giving up the most defensible position in my own home to doubly prove that fact.
I’m not giving up the most defensible position in my own home
Who the fuck thinks like this?
I dont know the right way to handle this, but announcing your position is a good way to end up shot yourself.
Used to break into homes. I was prepared for violence. You’re just wrong.
Anyone coming into your house on purpose at night is willing to hurt you. Giving them the chance and trying to be the nice guy by telling them your armed just announces where you are.
I was raised by gun people and brain poisoned from a very young age and now, years later, I still have to consciously remind my brain sometimes that my phone or laptop isn’t worth more than someone’s life.
I hate that growing up in this country made my default state a violent, terrified, antisocial mess that needed hard work to change into something resembling a normal human.
Very few burglaries are done in the middle of the night while the residents are home. Unless the burglar is very stupid they’re gonna burgle when everyone’s at work or on vacation etc. So in the extremely rare case that someone does break in at 3AM while you’re sleeping, I wouldn’t necessarily assume it’s definitely a robbery.
This isn’t to defend Kamala, I hate people who fantasize about implausible scenarios where they get to lawfully shoot somebody. A security system would likely deter any home invader regardless of their intentions.
Yeah, preparing to react with violence if some stranger comes into your home unannounced is not the crazy thing a lot of leftists like to claim it is. Desiring safety and security in you living space is a basic animal instinct. But I’d rather just the person get scared and run, since I’m not exactly willing to kill someone over my pc.
Killing in self-defense isn’t a bizarre reaction, but hanging on discussing such scenarios, bringing them up unnecessarily, fantasizing about them, these are pathological behaviors that suggest using the extremity of the situation as a moral pretext for getting off on murdering someone (especially a dirty poor)
Home invasion robberies are three times more common than house fires. I bet you have smoke detectors and fire extinguishers, and you’ve thought about how to keep yourself, your family, and your property safe from fires.
Planning and preparing for an emergency event three times more likely than a fire is not “pathological”, nor is it indicative of some moral failing.
There were people who denigrated others for choosing to wear seatbelts in their cars, or helmets on their motorcycles or PPE on their jobs. You sound like one of them. Do better.
Just because it’s “not crazy” and based in some basic animal instinct doesn’t mean we have to entertain it or that it’s not something that extremely easily leads to reactionary violence.
We literally the slope this leads down in people gunning down strangers at the door bell or literally in the drive in just approaching the house.
Is this a potential eventuality you should be preparing for, though?
Is it a rational thing to fear based on evidence, or is it driven by reactionary fearmongering?
Or you can be like Breonna Taylor and end up riddled with bullets because it turns out it’s not a burglar, it’s the police doing a no-knock raid.
I love how Harris is starting out with every advantage a candidate could possibly have and systematically blowing it.
Trump too tbh. This election feels like both candidates are doing their damnedest to throw it for the other one because neither actually wants to be president right now lol.
Is she? These seem less like flubs than attempts to flank Trump from the right, like with her “I love fracking SOFUCKINGMUCH” but at the debate. Libs are gonna vote for her no matter what and leftists are demographically a non-factor so why wouldn’t she?
The true believer democrats that vote will vote for her, yes, but she needs a way to increase democrat voter turnout to actually win. She might have less charisma than Clinton, and I’m not confident that “Not Trump” is going to be enough now that Trump has been out of office for 4 years.
We’ll find out soon enough, but I’m doubtful that this inauthentic pandering campaigning she’s doing is going to energize enough voters to win. Thanks to boomers and voter suppression and the electoral college every race is kind of the republicans’ to lose by default, so they can get away with a lot more stupid shit.
The goal of the Democratic Party is to become the Republican Party, not to win elections.
Let’s put it this way: the goal is to capture Republican donors, not to capture Republican voters. Two separate things.
Even people with private security and millions of dollars still fantasize about castle doctrine gun battles?
I have a hypothesis that burgerland’s “everyone should own a gun and be ready to use it at the drop of a hat” culture was cultivated as part of the white yeoman farmer ideal so that the burger regime could offload as much of the genocide work as possible onto the average settler. I think you’re more spot on than you intended.
was cultivated as part of the white yeoman farmer ideal so that the burger regime could offload as much of the genocide work as possible onto the average settler.
This is not a theory really, if you look into Hitler’s whole “generalplan ost” thing he planned to have nazi settlers set up farmsteads and do “defend their land” type shit. It all makes perfect sense ngl.
she’s running.
