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Notes on my first charge at a Tesla station:

Holy shit these cables are short, I’m lucky that this stall with a more accessible charger opened up.

The first two chargers I tried didn’t work.

The Tesla app sucks, I had to restart it twice before it let me start charging.

I’m using the A2Z Typhoon Pro adapter, works great!

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Not sure where you’re located, but without a “membership” for Tesla charging, the cost is about double any other company near me. It’s insane and a great reminder to only use these chargers in an emergency when you have a vehicle capable of charging at higher speeds. Tesla’s chargers derate all the damn time.

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This location was $0.44/kwh, another one nearby was $0.62/kwh. The Electrify America station near me is usually $0.45/kwh.

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Bleh, I’m grateful for I lived long enough to see people comparing charging stations’ prices like they did with gazoline ones, casually, like it’s a normal thing now. One additional advantage here though is that no one can mix piss and water with your electricity input like it has been done with gas.

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You cannot use these at all without a Tesla account

You absolutely can if you own a Ford or Rivian on Plug and Charge. I don’t have a membership, I’ve used the chargers. Confidently incorrect.

As someone who actually uses these chargers

As someone that’s clearly used them longer than you, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

they can deliver the maximum output for this vehicle

That’s why I mentioned vehicles that can charge at a high rate.

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A membership and an account are two different things. I have a Tesla account, and pay about $0.56/kWh at local SCs. If I dropped $7 or so per month on a membership, it would cost me about $0.36/kWh. I don’t because I don’t use them often enough. I have had them derate to 70kW but it was 115F in the middle of the desert, don’t know if it was my car or the charger that was dropping the speed, either way it seemed reasonable at that temperature.

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Why do you need an adapter? I thought the Tesla superchargers had CCS adapters you could attach.

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That’s only on the newest V4 stations, which are being rolled out incredibly slowly. All of the charges near me are V3 stations.

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It looks like the ones in the median could be used if you nosed in? I know some people like backing in, but it doesn’t look illegal if they’re installed there and the lack of front plant also lends to this too.

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Threw this together to explain the issue, not sure if all Tesla stations are like this. Here’s how the chargers are supposed to be used by Teslas:

I can use the charger to my left like this, but then I fuck over that spot while leaving an unused charger unreachable.

If I really squeeze close to the chargers, I can use the left one, but then I fuck up the spot on the other side unless it’s another car with the same charger location as me.

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👍 Nice diagrams.

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Driving the F150, or even the MachE, we just have to take two spots most of the time. It feels wrong but it’s what Tesla recommends for non teslas. I’ve only used SC a handful of times, but usually get lucky and grab an end cap or the side mounted charger when available.

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Ie read that the cables don’t reach and you end up having to take up 2 spots normally. Not sure if it’s because you have to park one slot over or if you have two park half way between spots though.

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Their picture clearly shows it reaches, their issue is blocking a charger where there is more than chargers than spots anyways…. So it’s a weird thing g to be worried about. Explicitly when there’s lots of empty stalls anyways.

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The only thing wrong with this picture is a Bolt at a DCFC. They charge so ungodly slow they might as well be ICEing the stall they’re at.

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The charge rate’s pretty slow, sure, but the battery isn’t very big, so it evens out.

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8 points

A 10% to 80% charge is about an hour.

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It really doesn’t. I’ve seen bolts that have been at chargers for over 2 hours and still aren’t at 100%

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I ordered the converter for my lyric yesterday. can’t wait to get it. I was stranded once before because there weren’t enough chargers around but there were Tesla ones I just couldn’t use.

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How do you link the adapter to the Tesla app? I’m surprised they’re ok with any 3rd party hardware.

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All the Tesla app knows is that I have a Chevy Bolt and I have an adapter, it doesn’t seem to care what adapter it is.

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Didn’t realize the cars were playing along. Thought it was some kind of spoofing or emulation.

Sounds like this is all very new! Exciting!

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Didn’t realize the cars were playing along.

The other brands have agreements with Tesla to allow this. My understanding is that they pay a recurring fee to Tesla.

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IIRC the third-party adapters have to be approved by Tesla, but I think there are 3 options right now. The other carmakers didn’t want to risk being hampered by Tesla production bottlenecks.

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I thought the only other brands that could charge at Superchargers were Ford and Rivian? Ford explicitly mention this as a feature in their marketing. Did Tesla roll it out to more brands?

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It just rolled out to GM a couple days ago.

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Ford was the first to sign on but eventually everyone did. Just about all 2025 electric cars sold in the US will use the Tesla plug.

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