I’m running EndeavourOS and Windows 11. Each OS is on a separate disk, but I have a data disk that is currently NTFS that mount in both OSes. NTFS causes problems for some things in Linux, and I’m worried it’ll bork the drive for windows eventually, so I’m keen to find an alternative. I’ve read about the WinBTRFS driver so wondering if that is a better way to go?
I don’t want to run a server with a share to access this data because it is way to slow for my needs.
NTFS is considered pretty stable on Linux now. It should be safe to use indefinitely.
If you’re worried about the lack of Unix-style permissions and attributes in NTFS, then getting BTRFS or ext4 on Windows may be a good choice. Note that BTRFS is much more complicated than ext4, so ext4 may have better compatibility and lower risk of corruption. I used ext3 on Windows in 2007 and it was very reliable; ext4 today is very similar to ext3 from those days.
The absolute best compatibility would come from using a filesystem natively supported by both operating systems, developed without reverse engineering. That leaves only vfat (aka FAT32) and exfat. Both lack Unix-style permissions and attributes.
sounds like my worries about NTFS reliability in Linux are more about historic reputation so I can probably relax on that front. The other issue with NTFS is performance in Linux is not great. FAT32 and exFat don’t like some filename characters from linux from what I read.
WinBTRFS is tempting. I have frequent backups so I might just give it a try and see what happens.
Fuse driver of ntfs-3g yes it’s slow but if configurate to use ntfs3 it’s same fast as in windows
Didn’t know about ntfs3 so did some reading about it. There are some reports of corruptions, they were all fixed by letting windows do a chkdsk, and making sure the windows_names parameter when mounting the disk helped prevent problems.
I’m going to live with ntfs3 for a while as see what happens.
Hi @Limonene@lemmy.world! It’s so hard to grasp as a casual user the actual benefits from file systems. I use ext4 on all my devices.
Could you point me to the required feature a file system needs to have in order to recover files after removing it with rm -rf?
I heard there are tools for my current file system which could help me out; But is there some file system with a rm-cache (until the disk is powered off or the cache is full).
Unix Permission is a must.
Would appreciate some general hints (I do replicate my personal important files).
DO NOT use WinBTRFS. It caused me some cryptic filesystem errors that I never found a real solution to. NTFS is the better option if you must have a shared disk, but I really suggest different partitions for each OS.
They’re definitely not suggesting having both OSes in the same partition (even though that is technically possible using winbtrfs, it is objectively an insane thing to do).
I would use exFAT for a shared data drive. Just don’t use it for programs since it lacks unix file permission support.
Please use different disks for each OS, you’ll save a lot of time and trouble later. It can be done, sure, but you’re setting yourself for a world of trouble in the future.
Just a recent issue
Most compatible is FAT32 which is also the most limited.
I am not sure I would trust the WinBtrfs driver with anything important. What problems are you having with NTFS?
Linux has two NTFS stacks: NTFS-3G and NTFS3 ( in the Linux kernel since 5.15 ). NTFS3 is faster and more feature rich I think but that said it also lacks a few things. NTFS-3G is more mature and some people still report it to be more stable.
