I don’t think the Fediverse will become mainstream. But I’m actually happy about that. And so should you.

75 points

Fewer people, fewer idiots. I’m glad that people here are actually sane.

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64 points

I’m glad that people here are actually sane.

Speak for yourself.

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12 points

I am ALL actually sane on this blessed day

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5 points

All of we are sane says us.

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2 points

Wait a minute…

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1 point

You’re not the boss of me.

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3 points

Ok Malcolm.

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11 points

Most people, I’ve definitely seen some schizo posts but they are pretty easy to avoid since they let their freak flag fly.

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8 points

I want the place to be just big enough that the real niche communities (mostly gaming) start blooming. After that, though, I’m good.

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7 points

Eh, feels mostly the same to me. Some people didn’t like the meme I posted and accused me of wanting to murder my neighbors.

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5 points

sounds like a normal Saturday, nothing to worry about

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2 points

This didn’t happen a month ago. More users, more idiots.

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It’s quite telling that by having a more ‘complicated’ sign up process and ‘how-things-work’ around here is able to keep idiots off the Fediverse (for now)

And I appreciate this, which means as a potential user I need to do my own background research, look around at different sources of information, lurk for a bit, before committing to a platform. And this in and of itself, for me at least, gives me a better appreciation of the ‘verse’ and how I can contribute to it.

From the article “The Fediverse is not that. It’s kind of… different. I mean, the very first thing you get asked when signing up for a Fediverse platform is “Which Instance?”. The signup process in the Fediverse is more complicated than people are used to.”

A counter example to this ‘barrier of entry’ would be threads. Super easy to join, making it almost ‘stupid’ not to join if you’re already on IG and using Twitter, without understanding what it offers besides simply being an alternative to threads (this is where I was at, could not outweigh the cons vs twitter, thus did not join)

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I like it too honestly. It reminds me of stories about how Usenet used to be before the Eternal September.

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I have not found that too be true. In fact I am getting more negative replies here than Reddit for similar comments. Like I just had one linking me to the whataboutism definition, but my comment they were replying too was the opposite. Unsure if a dumb bot triggered on a keyword or a person who didn’t understand the definition they sent. Been lots of little micro aggressions here. Wonder if the crowd or AI a grouping is using to sour the experience.

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I really think the typical Lemmy user falls into a lot of the same trappings as the typical Reddit user. It’s especially obvious on political or otherwise emotionally charged topics. In the end it doesn’t really matter if you are downvoted or not, it’s just an imaginary number.

But it’s definitely organic, not trolls or bots; just an inevitability of online spaces

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Go back to Reddit. I read through your post and you are a snowflake. I believe you’re looking for an echo chamber, which hopefully will not be found here.

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5 points

I sadly have to agree… I see that this post has a 2:1 up/down ratio. I was hoping that people with different opinions would speak up more because I would love to hear them

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4 points

I mean all it takes is to read this comment from you and then your post history to realize who you are. Name calling is just an emotional reaction and not discourse.

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Lemmy is a massive left-wing echochamber though. It’s honestly a problem.

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48 points

I agree with much of the article but… Dude, go on holiday. Billionaires and corporations make up the vast majority of emissions that are driving climate change. See the world before the rich end up destroying what’s left of it. You’re allowed to enjoy yourself.

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I know all that but I honestly don’t need to. Most of my time is spent inside anyway. Sometimes I take the train and spend a weekend some place nice but that really is all I need.

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Probably on a per capita basis but we are all contributing to climate change (the majority of it): https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data

Do you have a source?

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And we have to stop thinking vacations and planes are the same things. I’ve gone to awesome vacation places by train, car and even boat. You can still take vacations without it being a problem for the environment, just don’t take the plane

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A small reminder that clickbaity titles like this work against the author’s view for all the people who read just the title and scroll further. (And they’re not to blame. You can’t read everything)

TL;DR of the article:

Fall of Twitter and Reddit helped the Fediverse grow. Most users don’t know or care how Federation works and don’t realise the necessity of donations. Fediverse either remains niche or becomes mainstream, the future is not set in stone.

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That is a fair point, I’ll keep that in mind going forward, thank you

Edit: I do want to add that skimming the title and voting based off of that is not how it should work. I would at least scroll to the conclusion, even though this article admittedly doesn’t really have one. Going forward I will make a clearly marked conclusion and summarize my pov better in the title to avoid confusion.

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Regarding voting, of course, it should be done after familiarizing oneself with the post to some degree greater than the title.

I meant changing people’s minds. While just the title won’t convince people to think a certain way, it will remain in their minds as one of many opinions on the topic they encountered. And it’s a shame if that opinion is the opposite of what the author has in mind.

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2 points

That’s true, I’ll keep it in mind :)

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22 points

There’s a sweet spot, right? Popular enough to be viable; not so popular that the quality decreases.

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18 points

Yes. I’m already noticing a lot more rude and immature people as the number of users grow.

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9 points

I feel this is just a natural step in a new, growing platform/community.

Initially there is a smaller userbase tending to be more like minded/interested, and people will mostly behave.

As some get more comfortable and as more users join there will be a point where conflicting views and interests congregate while there may still be lacking people and tools to moderate the discussion, in addition to there being just the amount of content that it is difficult for bad faith content to be buried.

I think a lot of the fediverse is here now, where users are exposed to other users and content with either differing views or straight up intentional bad faith, whereas they previously were in heavily moderated communities or was only exposed to their section of content. Sometimes this might lead to good discussions, while other times it will devolve into rudeness or spite (especially with bad faith parties)

Eventually the amount of content may grow so that these incidents will be harder to notice, and/or more users will also bring more people and tools to aid in moderating said users and content

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7 points

This is where the system of Favorite and Reduce comes in. Same concept on Reddit with upvotes and downvotes. Hopefully the community will help to filter out the noise, but again, history tends to repeat itself.

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2 points

I’ve noticed some transphobia and homophobia recently too (usually from lemmy.world accounts 👀)

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Well of course. Lemmy is not censored like the other social media platforms so you will get to hear what people actually think here.

A lot of people feel uncomfortable around gay and trans people. It will take time.

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17 points

It doesn’t need to be. It just needs to be better than Reddit, which it is. That’s enough to make me happy.

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