Sexual harassment, sexual assault and rape have been referred to as surgery’s open secret.

There is an untold story of women being fondled inside their scrubs, of male surgeons wiping their brow on their breasts and men rubbing erections against female staff. Some have been offered career opportunities for sex.

The analysis - by the University of Exeter, the University of Surrey and the Working Party on Sexual Misconduct in Surgery - has been shared exclusively with BBC News.

Nearly two-thirds of women surgeons that responded to the researchers said they had been the target of sexual harassment and a third had been sexually assaulted by colleagues in the past five years.

Women say they fear reporting incidents will damage their careers and they lack confidence the NHS will take action.

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Um, what the fuck? Can people just not be terrible for a little while, please?

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Seems like hollywood. Dangling career opportunities as a reward for constenting to unwanted advances etc.

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Seems like every situation where there is a power differential.

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People are egoistic by nature, so there.

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People are also compassionate by nature. But society, upbringing, etc. can comprimise that.

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Hey, i didn’t say we have no virtues. It’s only our (as a species) biggest fault.

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Well… no. In fact, Is argue most people are not egoistic by nature.

But maybe many can be conditioned to become egoistic. Human nature is that we have no one nature. We’re very malleable. Power corrupts and all that.

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Men are people too, so “can people not be terrible” is still accurate…

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Yes, but essentially saying “not all men” serves no other purpose than to enable men to continue to ignore and exclude themselves from the problem, making them actively a part of the problem.

Edit: I find it absolutely hysterical that you assholes can’t help yourselves but pipe up and continue to expose yourselves to be exactly the kind of men we are talking about (when all it takes it to literally just… not. You realise you do have the ability to just shut the fuck up, right?). Enjoy whining in to the void, I’ve already wasted too much time on you clowns.

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I don’t think that would do anything. The problem isn’t that they don’t know it’s wrong, it’s that they know they won’t face any consequences for their actions.

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Leave the mindless man-bashing on reddit. Sexism should not be any more welcome welcome on Lemmy than it is in an operating room.

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You might need an extra 1 year course on why it’s not “a thing” to be lacking common sense

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I heard that among surgeons there are a lot who have a personality disorder like narcissism or they are straight up sociopaths. Because of the prestige and power that comes with the job. Some feel like they are some sort of god because they have so much control over someone’s life when a patient lies on the table.

Not a surprise to me that this shit happens in the hospital.

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The training pretty much filters neurotypicals. Most well-adjusted people won’t sacrifice their entire life for a career and don’t suffer from a savior complex that compels them to save lives. I’m certainly not advocating that surgery is unnecessary or that surgeons are bad people by default, but it takes a fair level of narcissism to put yourself in that position IMO

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I think there’s also something to the idea that it takes someone who is a little…“off” for them to be able to cut other people open for their job. You have to be able to dehumanize them to a certain extent.

I worked in a hospital for a few years, and the folks working in the ORs were definitely the most interesting and often most intimidating crowd, and you did NOT fuck with the surgeons, they were the kings and queens of the floor.

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Wait, so Scrubs was right about surgeons?

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I heard scrubs is right about a lot of things.

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Am nurse. Can confirm. Scrubs is right about a LOT of things

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How many Jello puddings have you stolen?

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My ER doc husband says it’s probably the most accurate medical show

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How’s his opinion of janitors?

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It’s just weird for a sitcom, but I guess it also had plenty of serious moments.

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Most jokes are based in truth. Except absurdist humor.

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Sure, I just didn’t expect ‘The Todd’ to be systemic.

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Even if you had like no morals at all, that type of behavior has to disqualify someone from being a surgeon. They’re sabotaging the work they’re supposed to be doing.

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“Dear neurosurgeon man, I know you have like 15 years of college and 20 years of experience and you are the only qualified neurosurgeon in 100 mile radius but remember that one time you rubbed your dick on that intern? Yeah, your going to need to let the next 15 patients die and we are going to need to let you go. I know it downgrades us from a level one trauma center, hundreds of people might die, and we will lose MILLIONS of dollars by letting you go, but it’s the right thing to do” - Said no chief of surgery ever.

They just pay the lawsuits and move on. It’s shitty, and it’s why surgeons are giant dicks. They don’t have to treat conscious patients and they get away with anything because they are nearly irreplaceable.

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They’re getting in the way of their own replacements, creating a hostile environment preventing people from working and gaining experience.

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Everything you said is true, and it fucking sucks.

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To be fair, I’d rather have surgeons be above the law than rich people.

At least they’re doing something good for society.

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what kind of sad pathetic waste of life do you have to be to GET HORNY WHILE SOMEONE ELSE IS CUTTING SOMEONE UP AND SEXUALLY ASSAULT SAID SKILLED SURGEON

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Have you met/partied with medical students who are doing their residencies? I have, and my opinion of doctors has radically changed since then.

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University living rolls on and on.

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Pretty much, I saw something similar with PhD students. It’s like they are infantilized adults from being in school for so long.

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Oh dear. Elaborate?

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28 year olds acting like 18 year olds.

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Even worse, to unleash an untrained surgeon out to the world in exchange for sex.

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Maybe they are turned on by how smart and skilled the surgeon is? Lol

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