- Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday praised Elon Musk, calling the Tesla and SpaceX founder a “talented businessman.”
- Putin was discussing Russia’s space program after a failed moon landing last month.
- His comments come after Musk said last week that he refused an emergency request by the Ukrainian government to extend coverage of SpaceX’s Starlink satellites to Sevastopol in Crimea.
Can we define Musk as a traitor now? He is actively interfering in a conflict in an active combat zone the USA has already picked sides in and sided with the enemy.
At the very least, all government contracts and grants should be pulled from SpaceX, Tesla, Starlink, and any other Musk run businesses.
I say nationalize anything with a government contract. Starlink could be extremely useful to the military and musk shouldn’t be in charge of anyone’s Internet connection, defense contract or not. Military would still get to use it and people would have a taxpayer funded alternative to companies like Comcast.
Or just lock him in a padded cell where they force him to listen to Die Antwoord 24/7.
Thank you. It is indeed a reference to Jason Mantzoukas from The Good Place. By far my favorite Derek character on a TV show.
If he actually did tell his company to take an action that effectively contravened official US policy (and it looks like he did), he broke the law. Specifically, 18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments:
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
I am willing to bet that someone in the Ukrainian foreign ministry was aware of this law, and then had some pointed questions for the US State Department on whether or not Elon’s refusal to share intelligence should be taken as an official US position on the matter, and if not, why Elon/SpaceX’s behavior is effectively contradicting official US policy.
This should get interesting, and it could put Elon in some real legal jeopardy on a matter that the US tends to not fuck around with.
I am praying so! I have my popcorn ready and I can’t afford to waste it. Lmao
But seriously, I really do want to see some Justice here. He is one man, a private citizen who directly involved himself in foreign affairs and I would believe, he technically committed an act of war by aiding and abetting Russia.
When it happened there was public outcry and as I recall the excuse given was that he had given them Starlink to assist in recovery efforts which is fine. When they started strapping it onto weapons that moved from providing aid to providing weapons to a foreign nation whom at the time was authorized to receive weapons and Starlink isn’t an authorized weapons dealer to begin with. So it was shut down as a knee jerk reaction to avoid penalty US arms dealing penalties.
Mind you this is just from my imperfect memory and only hearsay at that, I honestly don’t know why six out of every ten articles are about this guy.
Violating the Logan Act is a felony, but since 1799 there have been precisely two indictments and zero convictions.
Dick Cheney is a war criminal and still walks free, and so does George W Bush, where the fuck do you think Elon learned that shit from? Ha!
Only thing about that though, is that they were all representing our country and had the right to influence policy since we elected them or they were appointed after an election. Elon has no such right. He hasn’t been elected or appointed for anything.
Congress did, when they started treating him like something special and he played them all. He knew he can influence Ukraine war by giving Ukraine free sat connection and then control it by taking it away from them, oldest game in the book.
Elon has no such right. He hasn’t been elected or appointed for anything.
If Putin were to say Biden was a great guy would that make Biden a traitor? No. Putin is full of shit and he is setting out to create as much trouble as he can to destabilize the western powers who he views as his enemies.
For me, it’s not so much the praise from Putin, but Musks own admission that he intentionally hampered the war effort.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/elon-musk-ukraine-starlink-twitter-b2408081.html
Pfft… You and so many other people hear he is worth $200 billion plus and think that is his actual worth lmao. If you sold everything Elon has and liquidated it, it would not come up to $30 billion in cash. US national debt will never ever be paid.
What if, we sieze his assets and pay off the US national debt
You know you’re a bad human being when Putin praises you.
He is but Putin is saying this now to sow divide. Fuck Elon take Starlink and his wealth from him, but he is overall helping Ukraine. What he did was an egotistical shitty bitch move and Putin is trying to use it as a weapon.
Just pointing it out, that’s how Putin operates
He supplied them with Starlink, the same means he fucked them up with has provided them aid.
That’s about the same praise he gave to Trump.
And just like Trump, Musk is a piece of shit as well.
There’s good reason to expect that Putin has some sort of hold over Trump- he fits the profile (bad at business, constantly needs money, will do anything for attention, has been mob-adjacent his whole life, has been actively groomed to be an asset by soviet-bloc intelligence services, etc).
Now that I see Elon getting the same sort of head-pat treatment, I expect he’s in similar thrall and begin to wonder if that kind of public statement from Putin is anything but a public, encoded reminder that the leash is still there and if he doesn’t behave it all comes tumbling down.
Tesla stock is down 2% today, and down 12% over the last 12 mo. The funny part is that Musk, unlike Trump, has more money than god and 100% doesn’t need Putin or anyone else for that matter. He’s also not shy about saying anything controversial or anything like that, so it is very, very weird what Putin might possibly have over Musk’s head. Unlike Trump who was rumored to have golden shower videos over his head, I highly doubt sex-stuff would bother Musk one bit. And of course money is immaterial to him at this point - Tesla stock could go to 0 and Musk would still be one of the richest people on the planet. And being as rich as he is, power comes naturally. Such a weird dynamic.
what Putin might possibly have over Musk’s head
Well they both had connections with Epstein and have moved in similar circles- that whole thing smells like a long-running Kompromat operation targeting top industrialists and financiers, frankly.
As for Elon’s wealth making him untouchable? My dude, leverage is a thing and he is leveraging other people’s money and as such, he depends heavily upon those arrangements staying where they are. The interest on loan he took to fund the Twitter takeover (with other people’s money) is a lot, and whether or not Twitter can cover those costs is a very real question. This looks a lot like the debt traps Trump is in- they might both have money, but their money is tied up in assets it’ll cost them something to liquidate (and which they can’t readily get more of) and when that starts to look like cycling loans around to stay liquid, that adds up to pressure.
Tankies who simp over Russia are going to have an existential crisis.
