‘I believed things he told me that I now understand to be … lies,’ Dave Hancock says in new Rittenhouse documentary

A former spokesperson for Kyle Rittenhouse says he became disillusioned with his ex-client after learning that he had sent text messages pledging to “fucking murder” shoplifters outside a Chicago pharmacy before later shooting two people to death during racial justice protests in Wisconsin in 2020.

Dave Hancock made that remark about Rittenhouse – for whom he also worked as a security guard – on a Law & Crime documentary that premiered on Friday. The show explored the unsuccessful criminal prosecution of Rittenhouse, who killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

As Hancock told it on The Trials of Kyle Rittenhouse, the 90-minute film’s main subject had “a history of things he was doing prior to [the double slaying], specifically patrolling the street for months with guns and borrowing people’s security uniforms, doing whatever he could to try to get into some kind of a fight”.

245 points

Remember the video of him getting into a fight with some teenage girl just a few days before he killed those people? The video they wouldn’t let the jury see because it might show that Rittenhouse was an escalation-seeking rage-aholic? The video that his spokesperson has definitely seen?

Yeah, he was never disillusioned. He knew who this bastard was all along. He just stopped making money off the kid, is all.

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He is saying it now because that “turns” the documentary from “supporters” into a documentary from “critics”. That helps sales. And now the news coverage is pulling attention to it again and of course, that is good for the sales/views.

So I disagree about the stopping to make money with him part, he is milking the other side now.

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173 points

Why is this waste of space still in the news? And a documentary? Seriously? Can we please ignore him going forward and let him be forgotten, unimportant and inconsequential in a hole, like this litte rat deserves?

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64 points

Hey, he just wants to kill some more people. No big deal right?

checks rulebook

My mistake, murdering shoplifters is actually still kind of a big no-no. Apologies.

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he had sent text messages pledging to “fucking murder” shoplifters outside a Chicago pharmacy before later shooting two people to death during racial justice protests in Wisconsin in 2020.

That was before he went to Kenosha.

And honestly, we all knew he did it on porpouse. This is nothing new. Blowing this up and giving it more attention just furthers the right’s hero worship of him.

More attention makes it worse. It makes him an Icon and martyr for the white supremacists.

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35 points

Premeditation and intent. How is this weasely fuck not in prison for life.

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Really? They put a rule against murder in the book? Is that new? No? Well then they should tell people that! How are we supposed to know not to kill people if they don’t tell us that’s against the rules!?

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depends on if you’re white and if you can cry on demand (about the punishment)

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Unfortunately, he is very consequential. If you went to an NRA self-defense shooting instructor in 2019 and laid out everything Rittenhouse did, and then asked if that was valid self defense, the answer would be unequivocally no. What Rittenhouse found was an argument for shooting protestors and getting away with it.

That’s scary, because if you spend much time around gun shows and gun clubs, you’ll meet plenty of people who are clearly looking for an excuse to shoot somebody with a legal loophole.

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The judge created the legal precedent for the loophole.

The greater evil behind it all is a situation where a Blackwater type organization is paid for security and people protest, then they open fire and start killing. They can all use the Rittenhouse defense and get away with it.

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People on the right still believe he was defending himself or just a kid or whatever whatever. This news shows that it was totally planned, that he willingly put himself in harms way to murder people like he was judge, jury, and executioner over some shoplifting.

It’s important that we go “oh look, he really is, undeniably, a rotten piece of filth” and can throw out all these notions of “well-intentioned” people who end up killing people like this.

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For one thing, whether or not you or I like it, he’s a right-wing darling and he needs to stop being one.

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And that’s exactly why we shouldn’t give him attention and media space.

He is a “right-wing darling” because of articles and documentaries like that. He is triggering a negative reaction from the other side and that’s why he’s hailed a hero by the right.

More attention makes it worse.

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If we do not give him attention, they still will. All you are doing is not letting people know who they think is praiseworthy. I don’t see that as helpful.

You do not get to control who the right idolizes. All you can hope to do is shave some of them off by explaining why those people should not be idolized.

Why people who have gone through all of childhood haven’t found out that ignoring bullies doesn’t actually make them go away is beyond me.

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Well, he already got himself cancelled once over President Convict’s 2nd Amendment bonafides. Maybe he’ll do it again and it’ll stick this time.

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I only take issue with you implying rats are bad. They wonderful smart little creatures, cleaner than your family dog, and would never cross state lines armed to kill protestors because they psychotic. Although they may bite your finger mistaking it for food. And damn can their little teeth hurt.

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Let everyone know about his actions. The more people who don’t like him - the better.

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Wait you mean when he grabbed a rifle and traveled an inordinate distance to the scene of a riot and shot two people to death, he wasn’t just an innocent bystander after all?

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Slight correction, he only drove about 30 minutes. Wikipedia says he left Antioch IL which is 5 miles south of the state border to go murder protesters.

Only way he really went out of his way is if he road the Metra commuter train from Antioch to Kenosha since each are the terminus of different Metra routes, and this was probably outside of normal Metra operating hours. Plus he doesn’t strike me as someone who would take a 5 hour train ride to travel 20 miles

Note: I just picked the Metra stations in both Antioch and Kenosha for the below map. I don’t care enough to bother getting more accurate than that

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The real point here is that he was not in danger until he sought it out. He didn’t suddenly find himself a bystander in a dangerous situation, he went out of his way to place himself there. He actively sought this situation out, placed himself in harm’s way, put in active effort to get himself involved. He then acted like he was just defending himself when he found the exact situation he’d been actively seeking, just so that he had a convenient excuse to shoot some black people.

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Cool. Doesn’t matter.

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They need to try him again in court.

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Imagine being such a bootlicker that you want to kill people for property crime, even when that property isn’t yours. What a loser.

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He just wanted to kill people. That they were black made it more attractive, and the property crime was a convenient excuse.

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122 points

Rittenhouse has a hero complex, and can’t accept he’s nothing more than a deranged little shithead everyone knows is just a murderer that got away with it.

No one likes him, not even the right. The right used him when he was useful and then threw him away. How sad and pathetic that those were his “best” days, and they are behind him.

He’ll now try to regain his “glory” days by reliving that time he murdered innocent people. And hopefully this time he’s put away for life.

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Nah, hopefully this time he bites off more than he can chew and the most that the prosecutor is able to charge his next victim with is self defense or involuntary manslaughter.

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He’s like JD Vance Jr

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