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Not trying to start a fight, just curious. If you (vegans) already know we (meat eaters) don’t care, why would you keep pursuing that line of argument?

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At least for my part:

For the same reason I try to fight against injustices for people?

Why do I, as a male, condemn sexist behavior and fight against it? Why do I, as a teacher, stand in for the rights of my students when they get wronged? Why do I, as a human, hate to see other people fighting?

It’s a mixture between empathy and a feeling of justice.

I just dislike unjust behavior - and for me, animal cruelty is unjust.

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I think you meant you condemn sexist behavior…

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Big Oof.

Thanks for the note, I was kinda hastily writing this and not thinking it through.

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Sounds like you should be working on laws to restrict meat eating. That’s typically how we handle injustices on a society wide scale.

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You can’t work on laws to restrict meat eating without getting the public onboard first. Our democracy is flawed, sure, but we don’t live in an autocracy. Vegan activists do work day in and day out on lobbying for legislation. California just the other day banned octopus farming.

But that worked because the public was broadly onboard with it because of the recent public understanding of how intelligent octopodes are. If California somehow passed a restriction on meats like pork, beef, chicken, etc., then the entire state would immediately riot and kick the legislature out, completely undoing the restriction.

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Well, yes. That sounds reasonable at first.

But also, think of the broader public reaction, if governments started banning meat / animal products / whatever industries that exploit animals.

I do not think most people would be fine with a government mandated ban on those goods/practices.

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Consider that we all used to be in your position.

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What took you from not caring to caring?

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Information, the same information those groups put on their signs when they protest

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I’m not vegan and won’t ever be but can see that it does work just not to the extent a lot of them would like the world to. Like I said I’m not vegan however with the innovation of the meatless foods like the beyond burgers and such I’d be willing to try it IF I don’t have to pay and if I like it then that’s 1 more thing I’ll do towards a better eco system even if microscopic. Then you have kids/teens who will see this and begin to lean towards being vegan as they wouldn’t like what they see/learn.

At the end of the day even if it’s a small audience they’ll still reach people and change life styles which is ok

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Humans, all humans, have a built-in ability to not care about other people. This can easily extend to animals as well. That’s all it is, they don’t want to care so they don’t. They want to eat/use animal products and are far enough removed from the gruesome aspects of it that they can just choose to not care.

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The argument some people give is that plants also feel pain.

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Which reveals how little they understand about what they’re talking about

But you can just simply ask them if they want to say by that that cutting an onion is in principle the same as cutting the throat of a cow. They’ll row back then I assume

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Facebook ahh post

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everytime i see ppl saying “ah” instead of “ass,” I read it in Jeff Goldblum’s voice

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idk, personally I really don’t care that much about eating corpses, maybe I’m too detatched or a horrible person, but for some reason I’m fine with it

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Indoctrination is a hell of a drug.

Alternatively, psychopathy fits the description.

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I don’t belive it to be indoctrination, most people do care, but are just so used to meat, that they don’t care enough

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