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For the good of the entire fucking world, Jill Stein should go away. Go back to practicing medicine, where you’re usually limited to only killing one person at a time.

There’s no excuse for the Democrats’ support for Israel’s genocidal wars, and Biden is complicit in his unwavering material (materiel? Both? Both.) support that allows them to continue doing it. I hate that if I don’t vote for the enabling-genocide party, I’ll get the enabling-genocide-but-also-women-are-things-and-LGBTQ-people-shouldn’t-exist party.

So instead her goal is to ensure the election of Donald Trump and his merry band of eschatological fetishists, who’ll not only do the same thing because their literal goal is to bring about the apocalypse, but also bring back all his very smart domestic policies and hand the government over to the Project 2025 fanatics to turn the United States into Gilead. Brilliant. Real big-picture thinking there, doctor.

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I’d argue she shouldn’t be allowed to practice anything other than some deep breathing and self-reflection.

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Good thing you’re not in charge, then!

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Go back to practicing medicine, where you’re usually limited to only killing one person at a time.

Any source or links that say she kills people as a doctor?

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It is clear they should be banned already.

I think it does bring up some larger issues though. Like should limits be placed on accounts. Do we really want users like this? Are they adding to the experience?

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Banned for what? Because I have different views than you do?! Do you realise that the vast majority of articles I post aren’t even to this community?! The person you responded to neglected to tell you that.

Here is my post history: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts

This community isn’t a “Only pro-Harris posters allowed” community. It celebrates diversity of opinion and thought. It’s not an echo chamber.

If you think the article that was posted for this thread doesn’t align with the community guidelines, feel free to contact the moderators. Thank you!

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This was a discussion about you behavior. You did not address this behavior in your post.

The links are okay, but your responses are ridiculous just like the one here. The passive aggressiveness is palpable.

The constant need to disproportionally defend yourself definitely is trollish.

If you wish to address this fine. Otherwise there is not much else to say. I wish you good luck in the future and do hope you will change.

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Ban because you disagree with them? And you people say that Republicans are authoritarian.

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13 points

Try harder please. I have read several articles posted by OP. They clearly have an agenda and have engaged in a lot of trolling behavior.

So the question is having an active troll/propagandist really good for the community. Maybe you could argue that they generate engagement or that we need to protect people’s right to disagree.

The community should carefully weigh this moving forward. If accounts that act like bots are allowed then this place will follow in the footsteps of Digg or Reddit.

Personally, I would have already set them straight as a moderator. I have never been impressed by edgy people who add very little to the conversation.

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Right?! And the vast majority of articles I post aren’t even to this community. And I’ve posted pro-Harris, anti-Stein, and anti-Trump articles too. Funny how the poster who posted my stats neglected to mention that. lol

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I think basement dweller is much more likely. Let’s not forget, trolling is fun at a certain age. It’s a recreational activity, engaged in as a way to enjoyably pass the time. This is why the advice always used to be to not interact, and just starve them of any engagement so it stopped being enjoyable. To not feed them.

That stopped working when real effects also became achievable, but we shouldn’t forget that the first motivation is still there. Just because ignoring them won’t make them go away now, because they’re trying to actually work on a nebulous goal, doesn’t mean it ever stopped being fun.

I mean, is it so hard to believe, when we used to get regularly DDoSed and even occasionally hacked, that we’d also pick up some dedicated trolls from time to time? It’d frankly be pretty naive to think we’d be so lucky, if someone has ever spent any time in the seedier corners of the internet where these things come from.

It’s that fun aspect we have to remember. I mean, I disagree with ozma, Linker, jimmydore, lots of people very regularly, but they’re not stringing out dozen+ long comment chains just trying to irritate the person they’re interacting with at whatever moment. They’re not trolling, they just have strong opinions. It’s specifically that having fun at other people’s expense thing that makes this one different. And frankly, it’s very common on the internet, just usually not so much in moderated spaces, when the mods are being appropriately responsible. The rest of the internet is still out there though, can always go spend some time on 4chan’s /pol/ if you need to see the sorts of things we’re dealing with. Maybe a LoL lobby, I hear those are lovely. Maybe the comments sections under some Gamergate youtuber’s videos, or Ben Shapiro or someone.

Plenty of places you can find people that just want to have a good time at your expense. For fun, with just a side dose of fuck-the-world.

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And then of course, there are those people who like to engage and accuse just so they can increase comment counts:

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You keep that saved like its some damning thing, but it’s really not. Trolling is actually harmful to a community. That’s not.

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Thanks for the shout-out! I feel so special that you think so highly of me!

OR I mean, it might just be that I’m an older, semi-retired guy with some extra time who genuinely enjoys keeping up with third-party news and socialist movements. Not very complicated.

But your theory makes it sound way more fun and exciting! Like I’m some kind of super agent involved in a multi-layered grand conspiracy to… to… what exactly? Oh yeah, post articles on a tiny Lemmy forum that get downvoted immediately!

Still, the way you describe it, I almost feel cooler just reading it!

I’m just about to post a few more articles, so if you could please update your stats when you post, that would be awesome! Thank you! :)

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Yay more nonsense about Jill Stein from someone who prefers a Trump victory. Everyone enjoy your dose of bad faith comments from OP while they continue their totally real crusade against the duopoly. Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.

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I didn’t write the article, so how does that mean I prefer a Trump victory. If I preferred a Trump victory, wouldn’t it just be easier for me to vote for him?!

Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.

Thank you for realizing and admitting that you know I’m not a troll account managed by a bunch of people! :)

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20 points

Yeah, she’ll stop Kamala and hand it to Trump. Nobody is “flocking” to her.

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Well if no one is flocking to her, then you don’t have to worry about her stopping Harris. Right?

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5 points

She will get the same 3% she does every year, and it will be the same 3% that Hillary lost by in swing states in 2016.

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19 points

Saying the quiet part out loud?

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