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Was curious of what the step is and found this video for Samsung https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6TMvBQ7Sm0

And for Google Pixel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9nsSmDG_8

Doesn’t seem too different from the old enable unknown apps aside from Samsung requiring an additional step. Unless third party apps get completely blocked having to enable it doesn’t seem like a bad thing with how clueless lot of people are about apks and risks associated with them if they didn’t get it from a safe source.

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So if I’m reading this correctly, this is only a change in One UI, which Samsung makes, and only affects their devices… So why is Google being sued other than for headlines?

Also, it’s still not blocked, just additional warnings educating users about security, or lack thereof with side loading.

Not really on Epic’s side here honestly.

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You’re talking about the same Epic that intentionally broke TOS, threw a tantrum when it was correctly kicked off the store, responded with a prepared 80-page lawsuit a day later, lost on all but one count, and is now strutting around pretending it was all for the players while taking their money by the fistful.

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Apples TOS is complete bullshit and I support anyone that breaks it.

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Wow, what a freedom fighter.

Apple’s (and Google&Co’s) walled garden policies are absolute bullshit and should be outlawed, but in this, Epic is in the wrong. They agreed to a contract, they didn’t like it, so they chose to break it. Besides, saying that you “support something” does fuck all. Go and do something. Call a politician and get the law changed, you rebel.

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Eh a lot of TOS bullshit is exactly that. And Apple is very far from perfect, especially with anything that could even think of threatening their walled garden. I assume everything Apple does is bad for the consumer, because 99% of the time that’s accurate.

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They broke TOS in order to serve the letter. You can’t sue for something that doesn’t affect you. Saying they threw a tantrum is disgraceful

And they should have won the Apple suit but Apple was deemed to not have a large enough market share to have a monopoly…even if they have a monopoly on Apple products

It was terrible news for consumers

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except there’s no warning for apps distributed through google you just hit one button the default state of android as a result is google = safe 😃 anything else = BAD SCARY VIRUS DON’T ⚠️ it never used to give such warnings endlessly and it was fine the average person these days is unfortunately really tech illiterate for some reason and googles intentionally trying to scare them into thinking sideloading is dangerous sure windows does it but windows does it for literally everything windows is constantly giving warnings so no one cares about warnings on windows android basically never gives warnings but then you try and leave google’s ecosystem and it starts with the security theatre

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Well tech illiterate people are the last ones I’d trust to properly side load and doing their due diligence of knowing the source of their apk instead of a random one they found on the web.

Personally when I install F-droid on a new phone I make sure to check the signing keys or at the very least the checksum. As unsafe as Google Play can be I trust tech illiterate people even less of safely getting apks.

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I trust people to get apks online most people manage just fine getting exes online some people just get scared easily by warnings

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Woah, use commas.

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no

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The issue is treating all third party stores as side loading, when no other category of device does this. It violates EU anti trust laws, and possibly US antitrust laws as this lawsuit explores. We trust people to have figured this out for PCs and macs, mobile is quite literally no different at this point.

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F-Droid is a malware guys.

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what if I have a store that checks security properly? I mean how do you believe app store and play store then? belive them simply because they are corporate overlords? this is like saying “we don’t deserve freedom because we may do crimes”

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If you don’t know what you are doing why would you be side loading? It seems pretty easy to avoid

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I’m very happy my 12y old kid can’t just sideload shit nilly willy. He legit Googles minecraft hacks and downloads random apks and stuff if he gets the chance)

(his phone is also fully locked down with parental because a 12y old should have free reign on the internet, but that’s beside the point)

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honestly i think letting kids experiment on their own devices and get them full of malware is a good thing. its the perfect time to learn since a kid doesnt have any money to steal anyway, and the parent can just come in and factory reset the device if needed. Too much protecton means people never learn how to be responsible without it.

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How about all app stores (including Play Store and Samung own app store) not installed as system apps and show warnings equally when user install something new?

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Imagine a case similar to what we had about the default web browser on Windows.

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Stop, I’ve got insomnia and don’t wanna get too excited 🤤

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you can get this on something like graphene os. You can choose to install google play, or not to. and use any other app store like android and they all have the same permissions.

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Ain’t google play assumes it always installed as system app and graphene os team had to build a sandbox around it?

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Google play just has way too many permissions to the sandbox keeps it contained

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