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Electromagnetic radiation, as in visible light, radio signals or as this Iphone has a fucking RMBK melting its core inside?

Someone has a link to those test they performed to claim this?

I call it bullshit

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Microwaves. It’s microwaves.

Phones are slightly above FM radio and slightly below microwaves in terms of wavelength.

They’re a non-ionizing radiation emitter.

The radiation emitted by phones ain’t gonna hurt ya.

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That’s right! However, remember that bananas have potassium-40 in it, which is radioactive. Not much, though. So be very very mildly careful around bananaphones! /old joke

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Back in the early 00s there was this wave of “phones give you cancer” panic and my friends father made them put on this stupid sticker on the back of their phone to “stop the radiation”. Anyways it was stupid and your comment reminded me of it xD

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Ring ring ring ring ring

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Also remember that plants have been around before humans and that we evolved to resist natural radiations. We haven’t evolved yet to be around devices that produces more radiations than the limit agreed by scientists

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Great, now I have to go listen to the fucking song. Thanks.

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I seem to remember it was not a ionization issue but something with local temperatures increases around the ear when you were using it without an earset.

Anyway, Apples knows what the norms are, decided not to care, gets caught and has to retire a phone, nothing exceptional here.

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3.8 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.

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I doubt they’d have to retire the phone - digital radio power levels are normally pretty easy to change in the radio firmware. Which also means it’s pretty easy to change, intentionally or unintentionally, in a later OS version.

Perhaps Apple chose to cheat to improve reception after mandatory testing was complete and the phone was available to buy, figuring they’d never get caught out. Perhaps Apple didn’t retest with later OS versions and it was unintentional. We will probably never know.

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Can’t you read? The article says the EU has a limit of 4 watts per kilogram and the device produces more than that. Scientists agreed on that limit.

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How is it 2023, when everybody uses microwave radios for communication constantly, and there are still people that don’t understand the absolute basics, like the difference between radio/light radiation and ionising radiation? And how important transmit power is to how dangerous or not a radio wave is?

They do teach this stuff in schools still, right?

It boggles my mind. It’s not some complex difficult topic, it’s like not knowing how electricity works, or how your body works. This is basic child level knowledge that everybody interacts with every single day, so it behoves them to understand it at least at an introductory level.

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Yeah that’s what I thought… non-ionizing radiation fear, once again.

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I had a neighbor in Paris who would knock on our door and tell us to turn off the wi-fi because he was allergic.

To wifi.

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This is likely mostly true, but there is evidence brain tumor rates went up when handheld cell phones came into widespread use.

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Detection of brain tumour also went up, due to increased capacity of MRIs/CT scans.

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Also more marvel movies came out. It’s interesting how often we have to repeat the correlation/causation joke and people still struggle with it.

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To be fair, it’s not completely made-up. There is a body of evidence that suggests that even non-ionizing EM radiation may have so-called “biological effects” in humans.

Organizations like the Environmental Health Trust have been banging the “cellphones cause infertility and cancer” drum for years, and cites numerous studies on their website.

Of course, much of this research is of questionable relevance to real-world use cases involving actual phones and actual humans as opposed to, say, a bunch of rats being exposed to low-power microwaves in a lab for hours on end, but it exists nonetheless.

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Environmental Health Trust is a single issue organization founded to specifically claim that radio waves are dangerous.

They are alarmists bereft of credible arguments and should be treated as such.

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Meanwhile apple and chinese factories have 0 interests in shadowing researches that could put in danger their biggest source of income

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Certainly, but the existence of this research is why countries like France are taking this precautionary approach.

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EHTrust are mad as a box of frogs. They claim that phones cause cancer, which is something that all major cancer research charities dispute. Nothing they say can be taken seriously.

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Are you?

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I call BS on you understanding what radiation is…

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Eh

That took them 3 years? Lol

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They suspect it was increased with a software update because it was ok before the recent tests.

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France is really a strange country

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Oui

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C’est pas faux

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The agency said the iPhone 12 met the threshold when radiation levels were assessed for a phone kept in a jacket or in a bag.

Free bumpers incoming

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Electromagnetic waves are radiation, yes.

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Sure. All EM waves are radiation, including visible light.

Non ionizing radiation isn’t an issue though so nobody uses “radiation” for it. When you say “radiation” that’s pretty much always talking about ionizing radiation from radioactive sources.

The iPhone does not emit any ionizing radiation.

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“Yes”

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