I see i can find a foss version on f-droid, and that’s something not a lot of social networks can have, i don’t really like all the crypto bullshit and ads testing they’ve been up to lately, but still looks better to me compared to what Reddit have done lately or what other platforms have done in these years…

I don’t know about their privacy feature, but i wouldn’t trust their chat as for as far as i knew they were not end to end encrypted some time ago (except for secret chats).

Anyway it still looks like one of the at least still decent platforms out there, or am i wrong?

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The company’s CEO is Pavel Durov, the very clown who built russian alternative to Facebook, VKontakte, and then practically sold it to russian government with all it’s users. And russian government, being itself, repressed anyone who liked “wrong” stuff there. So, Durov being no stranger to selling things to governments, in my opinion, deserves zero trust.

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He didn’t voluntarily sell it to the Russian government.

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Didn’t he basically get ousted and kicked out of Russia since he didn’t wanna sell VK?

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Yes

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You don’t know, what are you talking about.
https://lemmy.world/comment/1556530

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I’m perfectly aware of what I’m talking about. He lost control of company’s shares to government-affilated people and they fired him. What an unpredictable turn of events. I don’t really care if it happend due to stupidity or malice, considering the amount of public stunts he pulled off at the time, I doubt you can call his course of action straightforward.

Even when he was fired, they did it with his own resignment notice he submitted as April Fool’s joke. The guy is a literal clown, I have no idea why you’d entrust him with your data.

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I like telegram but russians.

Still better than using WhatsApp.

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You may want to read this, especially the part about what happened with the start of the Ukraine war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Durov

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I’ve skimmed through the whole thing, but I’m unsure what you’re referring to. A little help, please?

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On 16 April 2014, Durov publicly refused to hand over the personal data of Ukrainian protesters to Russia’s security agencies and block Alexei Navalny’s page on VK.[8] Instead, he posted the relevant orders on his own VK page,[29][30] claiming that the requests were unlawful.

On 21 April 2014, Durov was dismissed as CEO of VK. The company claimed it was acting on his letter of resignation a month earlier that he failed to recall.[8][31] Durov then claimed the company had been effectively taken over by Vladimir Putin’s allies,[31][32] suggesting his ouster was the result of both his refusal to hand over personal details of users to federal law enforcement and his refusal to hand over the personal details of people who were members of a VK group dedicated to the Euromaidan protest movement.[31][32] Durov then left Russia and stated that he had “no plans to go back”[32] and that “the country is incompatible with Internet business at the moment”.[8]

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Career -> Dismissal from VK

He then goes on to found Telegram, with it based outside of Russia. I think their point is he has little reason to be friendly to Russia currently.

Of course, if you’re a dissident you would be putting a lot of trust in a Wikipedia editor.

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I like telegram but russians.

You know, I have friends that say this, but at the same time they’re stuck to tiktok like crazy…

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Telegram is more popular than WhatsApp in several global south countries. I use it with friends around the world, it has better functionality than WhatsApp. I’m not a fan of Meta so as far as “it just works” messaging apps go, Telegram is probably the best alternative to WhatsApp.

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Any platform that requires your phone number to sign up can’t be considered private de-facto

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That’s more about anonymity than privacy though. Take Signal for example. Yes, the phone number makes me identifiable, but what I chat about is very much private.

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Nothing that requires your phone number to register or has centralized backend could be considered privacy-friendly.

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Privacy is not the same as anonymity.

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