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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Choosing this will “increase their chances of matching with women and nonbinary drivers,” according to this blog post from Lyft.

If someone goes through the steps to change their gender in the app, we are going to assume that is how they identify,” Audrey Liu, Executive Vice President/Head of Design at Lyft, said in a statement.

“Inclusivity is a core value at Lyft and we are committed to creating a community in which riders and drivers feel as though they are included and belong.”

Lyft says this feature has been highly requested and will give women and nonbinary people more control over both the driving and riding experience.

Currently, that demographic accounts for less than a quarter of Lyft drivers, which is comparable with the rest of the rideshare industry, according to a report by Gridwise.

Those in launch cities can download the latest version of the Lyft app starting tomorrow, Sept. 13th to access the feature.


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Since users choose their gender in the app, this has some potential to be used for more nefarious purposes, no?

Not a big fan of discriminatory options like this, btw.

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Wouldn’t need it at all if rideshare drivers stopped sexually assaulting passengers

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There are plenty of sexually aggressive riders too. It’s not one sided. We can summarize it thus: people suck.

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True! Good point

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Perhaps this whole “random people using their regular car to give rides to total strangers” thing was a bad idea…

What if instead the rides were given in specially modified cars that can include some security features for both parties? And in order to pay for this, perhaps there could be some kind of central company that owned the cars and simply hired the drivers?

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riders were the accused party 43% of the time in sexual assault incident reports

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Can’t really comment on that as in my city (not US) to drive for these companies you need a license. To get the license, they perform background checks, check your criminal record, ask for medical approval, etc, every time you have to renew it, and all this seems to stop a lot of bad stuff. Not saying it doesn’t happen - you can’t never completely stop it - but there are ways to reduce it.

Anyway, they could just allow customers to select their preferred gender, would make anyone that wants to use such option happy, and we wouldn’t even have to talk about discrimination.

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They’d need a toggle for the feature on the rider side as well. Like “hide my gender”

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I’d assume if you get legal action thrown at you though, it’d be a lot harder to deny if you also were picking a gender to get specific drivers.

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Legal action for picking the “wrong” option in an app? Also, “I’m gender fluid, your honor”, so good luck proving anything.

By “nefarious purposes” I meant serious stuff. Some deranged fuck decides to kill (edit: a certain gender) and there’s not much you can do after they point a gun or put a knife to the driver’s neck. It’s too late by then.

I don’t know, I understand their intention, but it seems to have some flaws.

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I’m pretty sure the nefarious purpose one isn’t actually dealt with by this and is an extreme outlier

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Explain how sorting the list of available passengers by gender is discrimination? It’s being rolled out in huge metropolitan markets so there will be enough drivers for everyone to get one.

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The option allows customers to prioritize drivers from two of their 3 gender groups: “female” and “non-binary”. One group is left out and if you happen to be in that group, you’ll end up doing less trips, making less money.

I wouldn’t be happy with a setting to prioritize “male”, so you can see why I’m not happy with a setting that prioritizes “female” and “non-binary”. You either give the customer the option to prioritize any gender or you don’t.

Since they can’t verify one’s gender, the potential for abuse is there. A customer could prioritise these groups if they wanted to target them and the driver could also pick one of these genders if they wanted to have people of said gender in their car.

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The option allows customers to prioritize drivers…

Nope, it doesn’t. The feature is for drivers, not passengers.

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@flumph if they allowed sorting the list by race, instead of by gender… would you understand how it’s discrimination, then?

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The protected category doesn’t matter, I don’t see how anyone is getting a leg up or being held back by the feature.

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John Wayne Gacy is really unhappy with this feature.

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Male drivers get your discrimination lawsuits ready for your lost income.

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Back of the bus, shitlords!

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Did you even read the article? How would women drivers deciding they want more women and nb passengers cause male drivers to lose income…

How is this the most upvoted comment

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Next they should add white people to be able to get only white drivers to make them comfortable! /s It’s obviously sexist and not a real solution to their issues

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Your comment makes no sense given the details provided in the article. The toggle runs a gender-based sort on available passengers when a driver indicates they’re ready to pick up a new passenger.

  • Male driver, without this toggle, indicates they’re ready for a passenger? All waiting passengers are sorted by current algorithms.
  • Female+ driver, with this toggle off, indicates they’re ready for a passenger? All waiting passengers are sorted by current algorithms.
  • Female+ driver, with this toggle on, indicates they’re ready for a passenger? All waiting passengers are sorted by gender then current algorithms.

At no point does the pool of available passengers for male drivers decrease.

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You’ve changed the perspective to potential wait time for male passengers. That may be true but it doesn’t have an adverse impact on male drivers, which is what was stated in the comment I replied to.

It is objectively always better to be in the women+ group than outside of it.

Based on Ubers data, women+ are raped five times as often in ride shares. “Objectively” I bet a lot of women+ would choose “maybe a longer wait” over “5x chance of being raped”.

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So as a driver I have now a filter for better rape and murder victims? Nice!

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I assume they’ll probably check with the gender people put on their drivers licenses or something.

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Are they checking the customers too? If not, it seems to be an easy way for some weirdos to go around targetting genders they don’t like.

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On the rider side, women and nonbinary riders will see an option to “count me in” in their Lyft app. Choosing this will “increase their chances of matching with women and nonbinary drivers,” according to this blog post from Lyft.

For drivers, the feature is based on the gender marker on their license on file, and for riders, on their gender setting within the app, explained CJ Macklin, senior communications manager at Lyft, in an email to The Verge. “Both riders and drivers will have the option to update their gender settings at any time to ensure it is reflective of their personal gender identity,” said Macklin.

It’s opt-in on both sides.

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Yes, they can in. Non binary licenses are available in all 3 states that they’re piloting in. CA, AZ, and Il all have them.

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Would be better if driver meant rider here. Or if either rider or driver could disallow matching with male binary people (or whoever they find offensive)

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