cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13929272

So, what’s the take away here ? make it so expensive to live people choose cycling and we get better cities ?

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I don’t believe this is happening on a wide scale. I would love to see it. Living in a city with cycling infrastructure like we’ve been seeing in some European cities would truly be a joy.

We’re a super keen cycling household, with more bikes than people. The kids and I ride to school/work routinely and have done pretty much all our lives. Even we can’t get rid of the car. Sometimes, it is just necessary.

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Just imaging how much pollution this bikes on road generates, it would be way better if they continue driving.

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There needs to be both the carrot and the stick. Cycling has to get easier (better infrastructure) and driving has to get harder (expensive, traffic, etc). Together these drive behaviour change

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Bikes are only a small part of the picture. Infrastructure needs huge changes for bikes to be safe and we need to incentivise small vehicles like Kei cars and small cheap electric personal transport instead of going in the other direction. Not everyone is physically able to ride a bike and it can be challenging for those that can in some conditions such as heatwaves.

Virtue signalling hipsters on cargo bikes that cost more than a budget used car don’t necessarily have all the answers. Still need to pay rego and service that car you use to drive the kids in the heat and rain when the ABC aren’t watching.

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The Urban Arrow cargo bike is available in different models, such as the Family and the Shorty. And business models such as the Cargo and the Tender. The price of an Urban Arrow cargo bike varies depending on the model and configuration. Generally, prices for the Urban Arrow Family, one of the most popular models, are somewhere between €5000,- and €7800,-. This can vary based on factors such as the chosen colour, accessories, and specific model variants.

https://servicecenter.urbanarrow.com/en/what-does-an-urban-arrow-cost

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According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS), the average weekly earnings for full-time adults was $1,888.80 in November 2023, which equates to an annual salary of approximately $98,000. This is gross earnings, which means before tax is deducated.

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Urban Arrow Family Cargo Line 500wh Electric Cargo Bike: Regular price AUD $12,499 https://dutchcargobike.com.au/products/urban-arrow-family-cargo-line

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