I think we all owe The Marvels an apology…

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CinemaScore also gave these scores:
Catwoman: B The Crow (2024): B-
Madame Web: C+
Batman & Robin: C+
Morbius: C+
Fantastic Four (2015): C-
Borderlands: D+

They seem really generous with their scoring

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They seem really generous with their scoring

CinemaScore polls audiences and presents that data in the form of an A to F rating. They don’t do subjective ratings or reviews. The score is intended to be a measure of the average audience sentiment to a film.

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Yeah, I read that on there; I guess I should have said the audiences they polled are really generous with their scoring

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It’s polling of the audience done only on the first night, so the majority of the people being polled were interested enough in the movie in the first place to go see it opening night without proper reviews. Most movies will have an inflated Cinemascore.

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The fact their audience gave Catwoman, one of the most embarrassingly bad things I have ever seen, a B means literally everything that comes from them is useless. What an astonishing fuck up, that film is every single thing wrong with bad comic book movies distilled it’s an embarrassment that should’ve ended careers.

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Madame Web was the most fun I’ve had in a theater since before the pandemic. I did not outlast 10 other people in that theater just to allow someone to slander that masterpiece!

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That’s surprising. First one was good.

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First one was depressing. Awfully depressing. It was poignant and well done but I can’t rewatch it because I have to gear up to be ready for it.

The second one is a musical. I’m not sure anyone is ready for that after the first one.

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It’s weird. I watch the first Joker like three times so far. Haven’t seen the second. Now, Requiem for a Dream, that’s a hard watch for me.

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I put Requiem in the category movies of “Best Films I’ll Never See Again”. “The Skin I Live In” is in there too.

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Requiem is presented well, but I can’t get past the unrealistic situations they put the characters through, especially near the end.

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They both are depressing as fuck. Add in Blow too.

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I’m actually interested in watching the first one just to see this musical, had zero interest in the franchise before.

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First film was a great film if it were new IP, but a shit joker batman film. The second film was always likely to be shit, because they were always going for abstract and avant garde artistry without a clear connection to the underlying and far stronger story and IP people are expecting. I’m sure it’s a beautiful film and musical, but it’s dog shit attached to joker.

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I didn’t even view the first as anything related to Batman. Just a standalone movie to me.

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That’s what it was supposed to be, a gritty disconnected story about what a more realistic take on a joker would be, don’t think batman or super heroes was supposed to be in either one, not sure where that commenter is coming from.

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I think a lot of the Batman connections were completely unnecessary and felt jarring. There weren’t that many and they were brief but I just wish they weren’t there at all. It’s a great film flaws and all to me.

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It’s a musical?

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There are a handful of singing renditions and dressed up numbers with the two main actors.

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There were people suggesting given the age of Bruce Wayne in Joker, that the Phoenix character probably wasn’t The Joker, merely an inspiration for him. Harley showing up in the sequel would seem to refute this theory.

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Everyone’s shitting on the movie. I haven’t seen it yet, but damn…

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I’ve just seen it. It’s better than the reviews would suggest, but it’s not without flaws or quirks.

If you went into it expecting ‘more of Joker 1’ in terms of a straight, by the numbers sequel, you might very well come out disappointed. And there’s no denying that there’s a lot of singing in it, which inherently puts some people off. But if you’re willing to have an open mind, there’s a lot to love here.

I’ve seen terribly reviewed movies that I loved and well reviewed movies that I’ve hated. At the end of the day, it’s all someone else’s opinion anyway.

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Joker and The Greatest Showman had a baby?

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Yep, Joker 2 is terrible, IMO But, IMO, it already showed signs of no purpose in the first movie.

Good cinematography means nothing if the movie is empty. And the first one already made me feel like they were trying to sell me a concept that was impossible.

The second one doesn’t even have a concept. It just has depressing musical numbers. Any possibility of a good storyline is dumped so they can show more memeable joker reels.

So, to me, a terrible rating is completely justified.

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Wow, worse than the first Suicide Squad?

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I enjoyed Suicide Squad far more than Incel Joker tbh

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The second suicide squad was pretty good but the first was bad, more or less in the same ballpark as Joker IMO, but Joker was a little better.

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Having watched both I would much rather watch both Joker movies several times than any of the suicide squads movies. None are perfect but if you know the story and where the character is supposed to exist it’s a good story across both.

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You didn’t like the newest suicide squad? I found that very enjoyable, and the spin off series peacemaker is great imo.

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Nah, 2nd Suicide Squad was good.

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I don’t think that’s possible

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