It was only in 1969 (nice) that fungi officially became its own separate kingdom.

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I overheard someone talking about veganism and said they only eat plants. I asked them about mushrooms, “of course it’s fine, those are plants”.
No amount of convincing worked.

So I’ve seen it once.

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Mushrooms are plants in the culinary sense. Like strawberries, blackberries and raspberries are berries in the culinary sense.

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Yup. Inside culinary classifications, fungi don’t exist. Outside of culinary classifications, vegetables don’t exist.

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Culinary definition doesn’t differentiate plants, but mushrooms are vegetables.

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Separate culinary definitions? That’s nuts!

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But not peanuts, which are legumes.

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If anything is close to having a consciousness and experiencing an array of emotion, including suffering. That’s a mushroom, much more than a plant.

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The mycelium, maybe. That is definitely not the part of the mushroom that you eat.

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so hang on, mushrooms are like uh, well not milk, but as if say a cow regrew its meat every season? or maybe like a lizard that regrows its tail?

mushrooms are weird, man

wild idea, would it be possible to hijack mycelium with animal DNA and make it grow mushroom shaped meat??

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Actual animals are far more likely to feel pain that fungi. Do fungi even have a nervous system?

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Fungi are a nervous system.

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We actually suspect they do. They can also display intelligent behavior, from a certain definition of the concept.

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So are chickpeas or edamame meat to you? Because they have like 5 times as much protein by weight than mushrooms.

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Mushrooms have some protein, but not very much. They aren’t a very good source of protein

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Pluto is a mushroom

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No, Pluto is a plant.

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No. Pluto is an animal.

Source: Disney Wiki

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Is he though? He’s anthropomorphic, speaks clear English, and owns a dog.

Pluto is an animal-shaped person.

Wait no that’s Goofy. Pluto is an animal owned by an animal-shaped person!

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Question is, if they are a plant, who are they in league with?

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I think an issue here is that taxonomic and colloquial definitions don’t always agree.

Spiders are colloquially bugs, but they’re not taxonomically “true bugs” (which is itself a colloquialism for Hemiptera). Tomatos are colloquially vegetables but taxonomically fruits…but afaik vegetable is a purely colloquial term anyway.

And as someone else in the thread mentioned, colloquial berries are not always taxonomic berries.

So…colloquially, “plants” sorta means, “macroscopic multicellular living non-animal thing,” but taxonomically it’s something else.

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And literally anything is a fish if you try hard enough

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I mean, probably not bacteria or viruses.

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Any vertebrate at least. A boney fish what likes a-bonin’

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Similarly, “a planet” can be understood in technical or colloquial context which changes the meaning. It can have a specific meaning or a vague flexible meaning, just like with berries.

BTW raspberries are my favorite berries… sort of. Watermelons are pretty good too.

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I like bananas

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Actually planet doesn’t have any hard set definition, we kind of just do it case by case because its damn near impossible to come up with a rigid definition that doesn’t suddenly classify some planets as moons or some moons as planets or create weird situations in which an object can switch between the two.

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The International Astronomical Union (IAU) defined in August 2006 that, in the Solar System, a planet is a celestial body that:

  1. is in orbit around the Sun,
  2. has sufficient mass to assume hydrostatic equilibrium (a nearly round shape), and
  3. has “cleared the neighbourhood” around its orbit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAU_definition_of_planet

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If you’re talking about tomatoes, the difference is the context, and it isn’t a choice between colloquial vs scientific taxonomy, but between culinary/nutritional vs botany/taxonomy (and). You can talk about either in a colloquial context or a formal context, though generally there isn’t much reason to talk about botany in a colloquial setting.

From a nutritional perspective, mushrooms are generally considered vegetables, too.

afaik vegetable is a purely colloquial term anyway.

I thought you were wrong but I looked it up and I appear to have been mistaken. It makes “tomatoes are fruits, not vegetables” sound nonsensical, as it implies that “vegetable” is a different taxonomical option, when really it’s just a word for objects with a particular collection of traits that are relevant in a different context. What we should he saying is “While tomatoes are not fruit in the food pyramid, taxonomically, they are.” Doesn’t really roll off the tongue, though. Maybe “Tomatoes are vegetables AND fruits!” would solve that?

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but what about berry club? which things count as berries now?

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very well said

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I hate the word colloquial

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Colloquialism is the best word.

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Fuck you op. Mushrooms are plants, Pluto is a planet, and that’s the truth from one edge of this flat Earth to the other.

~disclaimer: this is a joke~

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Honestly? Flat earth? It’s not even funny as a joke. That entire movement has been so incredibly detrimental, and dangerous. It has shattered families, and been an instruction manual for other conspiracy theorists. And the worst thing of all is that it makes actual, real facts about how the earth is in, in reality, a hollow shell with a breathable atmosphere in its inferior, come across as just as crazy as flat earth. How are we supposed to spread the truth of hollow earth when flat earthers are out there making us look crazy? Just because hollow earth also points out that the government is lying about the earth doesn’t mean we’re the same! People need to know about hollow earth! Otherwise, we’ll never be able to heal the housing market by building condos inside the earth!

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That’s how we get morlocks, though

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Ugh. Morlock racism crops up yet again! The morlocks did nothing wrong

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flat earthers are weird. the earth is obviously bowl shaped or the oceans would fall off. and cats would knock everything else off, thats just common sense!

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Honestly? Flat earth? It’s not even funny as a joke. That entire movement has been so incredibly detrimental, and dangerous. It has shattered families, and been an instruction manual for other conspiracy theorists. And the worst thing of all is that it makes actual, real facts about how the earth is in, in reality, a hollow shell with a breathable atmosphere in its inferior, come across as just as crazy as flat earth. How are we supposed to spread the truth of hollow earth when flat earthers are out there making us look crazy? Just because hollow earth also points out that the government is lying about the earth doesn’t mean we’re the same! People need to know about hollow earth! Otherwise, we’ll never be able to heal the housing market by building condos inside the earth!

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What’s the worst that could happen if you didn’t put in that disclaimer?

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Annoying messages.

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It’s not a plant or an animal, but a secret third thing.

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They’re fungi fun guys.

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Plants are closer to humans than the mushrooms.

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You sure about that, boss? http://tolweb.org/Eukaryotes

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That’s just the explanation of eukarya which lists animalia within the same super-group as fungi and plants being in a different one altogether. Any relationship with plants to humans (which are within animalia) or mushrooms could be a bit subjective.

Yes, fungi are closer to humans than plants. If you look at the reproductive cycle of all three though, plants have a closer amount of “sexes” to humans. Plants generally having “1” or 2 sexes; humans having 2. Fungi though

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Scratch that. Reverse it. And on we go

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Mushrooms are actually aliens

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