Supposed aliens landed in Mexico’s Congress but there were no saucer-shaped UFOs hovering over the historic building or bright green invaders like those seen in Hollywood films.
The specter of little green men visited Mexico City as lawmakers heard testimony Tuesday from individuals suggesting the possibility that extraterrestrials might exist. The researchers hailed from Mexico, the United States, Japan and Brazil.
The session, unprecedented in the Mexican Congress, took place two months after a similar one before the U.S. Congress in which a former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer claimed his country has probably been aware of “non-human” activity since the 1930s.
It’s so pathetic that all these UFO stories are being taken seriously by world governments. What’s next? Will they turn down the lights in the capital and tell ghost stories?
Only legislators seem to be taking this seriously not governments. I think it ties in to the rise of misinformation and conspiracy theories. Its being used as an approach to gain political favour amoung the populist right.
The Oversight Committee inquiry was bipartisan and only the Democrat mentioned aliens at all in his opening statement. Christie refused to even deign to speak about UFOs at the GOP debate. The Mexican congress is controlled by Morena. I don’t think this is being driven by the right at all.
See my comment above.. It’s not pathetic - these issues deserve to be looked at seriously. It certainly seems our governments take UAP seriously.
I’d encourage you to educate yourself and delve into the topic to gain a little more insight rather than just broadly dismissing it and handwaving it away.
So we have debunkable poor quality video and untrustworthy eyewitness testimony. Extraordinary claims DO require extraordinary evidence, and this doesn’t mean that every poor quality cellphone video needs to be “taken seriously”.
How about if some actual astronomers and biologists could weigh in? I wonder if people could elaborate on this “70% DNA similarity”, because as-is it is a suspiciously well crafted bite-sized talking point that is easy to grasp on the surface, perfect for conspiracy nutters to latch onto and parrot without getting into the actual science.
I’d encourage you to educate yourself on basic logic and the scientific method, instead of gullibly accepting these claims without sufficient evidence.
You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
I’m not discussing this guy and his alien body. It’s clear he’s not credible. So yeah of course, the 70% DNA thing is bs. I haven’t been discussing this guy in this thread.
I think you’re asking the wrong questions because you’re presupposing that UAP are extraterrestrial in origin (we may not require the expertise of astronomers).
These are not poor quality video - these are video taken by military cameras and radar systems which the Pentagon itself has released and discussed. Hundreds of trained pilots, including elite fighter pilots, reporting sightings over decades and decades - before the existence of advanced surveillance and drone technology. Obama stating in a television interview that things are flying in our skies and we don’t know what they are.
What we need is more transparency from the Pentagon and our governments in terms of what they have collected. We need access to the radar data of fighter planes (which as of right now is classified - no scientists have access). We need to know if UAP have ever been recovered.
Don’t you ever wonder what was shot down over Alaska and the Yukon this year? Canada’s defence minister clearly stated in her press conference that it was NOT a balloon like the one from the Atlantic coast that China confessed to - it was “an object.” Why are they concerned indigenous hunters may find it if it is innocuous?
These UAP either have large national security implications or they could be a completely new area of scientific study. These bare-bones facts warrant further exploration. And really if we never dreamed of exploring further we wouldn’t have many modern discoveries like the discovery microbes exist. That scientist was mocked by people too. We have to be willing to question our existing paradigms or we will never advance.
If you think that’s a serious issue, just wait until you hear about the escaped lunatic with a hook for a hand!
It’s not pathetic
Yes it is
these issues deserve to be looked at seriously
No they don’t.
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My only takeaway from the House hearing about it a few months ago is that there doesn’t seem to be a proper channel for reporting anomalies and hazards etc. They made a pretty good case for that at least IMO. But I’m not an expert on such things so I’m sure the internet will tell me loud and clear if I’m wrong.
WTF is that even supposed to be? Bones covered in skin with a miraculously preserved face?
And to make themselves harder and harder to find as human technology advanced. You know the exact opposite way everything is real behaves. Everything true eventually gets easier and easier to prove. Everything false shows the every decreasing effect, where more and more resources are required to find anything at all. If you want a real challenge try to find evidence for ESP, if you want easy mode go ahead and verify any scientific discovery that broke the minds of people a hundred years ago.
Used to be people saw aliens just by sight. Now we are reduced to finding them only in isolated incidents with complex military sensor packages that no one understands.
Got to give those aliens credit. They have somehow made themselves follow the exact path all pseudoscience follows. Ingenious. Almost as ingenious as only abducting drunk hillbillies who live alone.
So is there just something in the water all throughout North America or what?
You see these kinds of claims everywhere. Maybe not aliens, mind. Before space and aliens were on everyone’s mind, people were abducted or fed on (among many other sordid things…) by vampires.
And demons and all sorts of other creatures.
Aliens are only the latest in a long list of boogeymen.
It’s definitely very US centric overall.
Reddit was (or rather still is) full of it this time around too and people in various subs called everyone who dismissed this obvious fraud (by the same fraudster that literally pulled the SAME fraud 5 years ago already) as being part of a CIA operation to cover this up.
From the video “Data Source: https://nuforc.org/”
It’s a US based website thats in English, of course non English speaking nations aren’t going to be represented
Somehow, it seems, you managed to cause PipedLinkBot to repost your YouTube link instead of the Piped link, which then triggers PipedLinkBot to reply to itself infinitely. Maybe because the link is to an unlisted video?
I don’t know how to get it to stop. Maybe a moderator can ban it temporarily.
I’ve been wondering about that too. This dude was already busted for passing off dolls as aliens. The article said they aren’t even sure that he’s made new dolls since then. So maybe this is just an opportunist that saw renewed interest.
More generally though, there’s sort of a drumbeat of alien news from official sources. Like it’s a psyop, but I don’t know why. Maybe to give the Q-susceptible types something more controlled to fantasize about? Aliens are actually in contact and the govt wants to soften the blow? They made some badass weapon and want a cover story?
Guerrilla marketing for another X-Files reboot?
There is a a lot of legitimate inquiry occurring and as someone who does genuinely want answers, I am disappointed but not surprised that people like this guy are coming out of the woodwork and discrediting the work that has been done.
I truly believe that the renewed interest and news is because this topic has gotten too big to keep covering up. There are whistleblowers, trained fighter pilots, and commercial airline pilots coming forward and speaking to the legitimacy of UAPs. There is compelling civilian video because everyone now has a good camera in their pocket.
They have been captured on video that has been officially released by the Pentagon, including a video of a silver orb bearing resemblance to the “Foo fighter” UAP that pilots have been reporting since the Second World War. They are being discussed in official memos to Canada’s Prime Minister after our Defence Minister was clear that what was shot down was an object, not a balloon. The memo states that there is a risk that the object could be found by indigenous hunters - if it’s a weather balloon or something innocuous why would they care? They have been observed by US navy fighter pilots entering and exiting the ocean.
Look, I understand that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but we’re not even allowing broad, legitimate discourse about this topic without mockery and eye brow raising. How will we ever get to the bottom of what is happening if we can’t even seriously discuss it? Why would hundreds of trained pilots lie about what they have seen? It’s not just one guy. And it seems like it has been happening for a LONG time.
The questions I want answers to:
- How long has the military/five-eyes really been tracking this phenomena.
- Do we have any idea where they come from or what they are.
- Have we recovered any craft.
However, at this point I would even accept an official saying yes they’re real and it’s not human or no here’s what they are with a thorough explanation but we don’t even get that much.
So they break our understanding of physics, but we are able to shoot them down?
And they have been showing themselves, just out of sight, for decades? Without any other effects?
If they’re aliens capable of interstellar travel, then they really suck at utilizing their technology, which would be far far more advanced than ours. Or they’re doing this intentionally, which also would make no sense. Other explanations are far simpler and more plausible.
The reason people mock this is because people go to the most outrageous conclusions before anything more reasonable, without sufficient proof to rule out simpler explanations. You know, a process which every other field of science uses.
we’re not even allowing broad, legitimate discourse about this topic without mockery and eye brow raising.
Blame the decades (over a century?) of grifters taking advantage of people’s gullibility.
It doesn’t help that there is not a single solid proof, or that top secret information is not just available to anyone with a clearance, but only on a “need to know” basis. If there was actual proof, and there was an actual aircraft, or even actual contact… what would you do with that knowledge? Do you “need” to know, or just “want” to know?
As far as I see, there are three possible scenarios:
- There is nothing, it’s just a bunch of sensor glitches, visual illusions, and imagination from people who want to believe.
- There are no ETs, just advanced technology, that no country wants to reveal before using it by surprise in the next war.
- There are ETs, the technology is millennia more advanced than ours, for all intents and purposes it looks like magic, we can’t reverse-engineer it, or stop it, or even properly detect it, and we may not even be the ones deciding who gets to know.
Which one would you want to believe?
I’ve personally known people whose accounts point to scenario 3… even I have personally seen things that have been hard to explain… but without proof, they could all be just a mix of 1 and 2.
Or a glitch in the Matrix 🤷
I also hate the amount of mockery around the topic. We have very credible accounts from high ranking officials of UAPs that break the laws of physics.
None of the credible sources mention aliens. They simply mention the UAPs and that we do not know who or what they are being controlled by. That sounds like a sensible place to start.
This has the potential to be one of the biggest discoveries of our entire history, and people seem more willing to mock and dismiss the topic, rather than actually having a serious conversation and investigating the phenomenon.
This is embarassing for Mexico.
At least they’re focused on aliens when they could be focused on fucking people over like usual.
Let me try to explain this as someone that lives in Mexico, Jaime Maussan is like a cheap version of Fox Mulder or that “Aliens” meme guy from history channel. Bigfoot, loch Ness, martians, etc you name it.
Nothing new for us but he must be thrilled that someone from outside Mexico pays attention to him.
todavía me acuerdo del vídeo de los niños jugando fútbol y que un alien supuestamente saca su brazo desde un poste de luz y fue lo único de lo que se habló por cómo 3 días en las noticias
No mames, los del alíen de Yucatán! Hasta me acordé del otro baboso llamado Carlos Trejo, que sube videos a YouTube de su tratamiento capilar.
Alguien recuerda cuando salió en Otro Royo hace como 20 años con un disque brazalete tele transportador o intergaláctico o una mamada así?
Translation for those who ain’t Mexican or can’t speak spanish: does anyone remember when he appeared on that popular TV show like 20 years ago claiming he had a teleporting bracelet or an intergalactic travel device or some bullshit like that?
I saw this article many years ago, the author argued that conspiracy theories show a timedelay in passing because of languages. Some conspiracy pops up in say France and it takes three years to meet the person who: speaks French and Spanish, believes it, is a hyperspreader, and is willing to take the effort into translation. Now the conspiracy meme is moving around in Spainish where it will remain until about three years later when it encounters the Spainish speaking person equivalent who moves it into English.
I wish I had saved the article because the author wasn’t just speculating. He had timed out by internet posts the jumps from English to Hindi. The effect is a weird type of future shock where what was hot in one culture and forgotten about becomes reintroduced back a few years later.
I ran a small electrical engineer homework helping board once and at one point we got overwhelmed by Spainish-English speakers screaming about Tesla transverse wave stuff.
