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It would be a lot easier to sell RTO if rent weren’t outrageously high anywhere near a downtown central business district. I prefer office personally and don’t mind a 20 minute commute or so but any more than that is a real drag. It’s real hard for me to tell someone to fight an hour and a half of rush hour traffic just to get to the office and be harassed for 8-12 hours and then do it all again at night.

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I told my boss the other day my upper limit for in office time is one a week. We were 3 days a week before COVID, 0 during COVID, 1 a month after COVID, and just this month they upped it to twice a month.

Hell, if I stopped coming in at all right now there is no way in hell they’d fire me anyway. We have too much stuff to do and not enough time to do it. I know people think that but we’ve got contractual obligations to fill and new regulations to follow. It’d cost them way more to fire me and miss those deadlines waiting for new hires to get up to speed.

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Dude, just don’t go. If you’re doing your job from home, why are they asking you to burn fuel and your time on earth sitting in fucking traffic???

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If more people stood up for themselves, we wouldn’t have this problem in the first place.

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If only more workers could stand up for themselves in unison. Like some united front. But what could we call it?

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Crash the housing market to save the office building market

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I’m OK with that, the housing market is in a giant bubble and it needs to crash. I say that as someone who bought a house at the lowest price point right at the start of the pandemic, combined with an incredibly low interest rate. Theoretically my home is worth almost 50% more now, 4 years later.

Thaaaaat’s a bubble.

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Theoretically my home is worth almost 50% more now, 4 years later.

Yep, and having your house have a higher paper value doesn’t help you much at all as a home buyer that lives in the place. Your taxes go up in most localities, and it makes upgrading that much more impossible because everything else went up in price too.

It only helps if you want to move to some other place where prices are much lower, which I’m good on moving to Idaho or whatever.

It’s great for your paper net worth…yay. 🙄

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The housing market needs to crash. Prices nationwide are insane. Bubble needs to pop

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No. The price is high because inventory is low. Crash happens now it won’t lower prices. Companies will stop building, prices will shoot upwards due to frozen inventory. Picture only million dollar homes with no buyers, sellers can’t sell at a loss, and hundreds of millions of homeless. 2008 happened due to an inflated inventory and prices. There’s no inventory this time around, it’s going to fucking hurt. Great Depression round two. The stock market is going to be the thing to break this go round, and then everything goes.

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Prices are high because companies are algorithmically raising rents for groups of landlords or outright buying up half of all new single family homes as large scale investments. The market is screwed because of entirely new reasons never seen before, clearly demonstrated by all the conflicting signals about what is healthy and what isn’t. This is a market failure when timely information isn’t transmitted to the rest of us, monopolies are thinly veiled, and taxpayers keep being forced into subsidizing and bailing out outdated businesses that should be left to fail.

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There’s loads of inventory, just not a whole lot available in dense areas. No idea where you’re pulling “hundreds of millions of homeless” from.

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Hundreds of millions? 1/3 of the U.S.? I don’t really see that. Even if the value of your home drops to $0 it wouldn’t automatically make you homeless as long as you can pay the mortgage or if you have it paid off. And the mortgage payment would stay the same cuz we have 30 year fixed rates.

Hundreds of millions of homeless people in the U.S. wouldn’t just hurt, it would be a total collapse and the end of society as we know it here, not to mention we’d drag most of the world down with us.

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Yes, please do!

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tbf, this is probably suburban / rural areas to move back into urban areas that are already having crises. Won’t fix any of the housing markets in high population centers.

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