In the twelve-month stretch from October 2022 through September 2023, 30,000 people died while waiting for federal disability determinations, according to Social Security Commissioner Martin O’Malley. Martha asked Harris what she would do as president for people, like herself, who are waiting for disability decisions while in desperate need of health insurance.

Delays in those decisions, driven in part by understaffing and a Covid-related rise in disability rates, have driven the typical wait time from four months in 2019 to seven months today, often coupled with the need to appeal an initial rejection, which can take years. The processing times represent a mounting crisis for the more than 1 million Americans who apply for disability in a given year.

6 points

It will always blow my mind that the <$950 people on SSI get every month is somehow supposed to sustain them. I’m lucky that I get SSDI but even though I’m making 1.5x the SSI benefit, I’m still drowning in expenses. And I can’t do any work or I risk losing my income. I wish they’d just let me work a couple hours a month with zero risk to being kicked off disability. It would save so much money in their other benefit pots that I do qualify for.

But yay, so glad they’re using realistic math to determine an appropriate cost of living adjustment. That 2.5% will go a long way - I could afford the gas to drive to the doctor 2 extra times! Or I could buy 4 bananas! The possibilities are endless.

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I am medically qualified for disability but instead I have a job and work just enough hours to pay rent because that’s easier than jumping through all the hoops to get disability

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Same. It’s insane some of these limits and stupid amounts of outdated red tape.

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I probably should be as well, but I just don’t have the fight left in me anymore.

Maybe someone can explain to me why it’s easier to fight for someone else vs ourselves, 'cause it’s gd annoying as hell.

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So a bit more info on this … if you look up the average of the demographic that tries to game a system it usually sits somewhere between 2-5%. Unfortunately the powers that be have decided that even tho 95-98% of people follow the rules, everyone has to be vetted (and often denied) so the ‘bad’ ones can be filtered out.

Untold b/trillions are spent doing this, far surpassing what it would cost to just have basic vetting where people in need would be able to access funds/services within 30 days.

Edit to add – This is ONLY good for individuals. All corporate entities should be held to a minimum wait of 6 months to be completely vetted.

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This usually bears out in large workplaces too, most of the employee mistakes are genuine, about 5% are deliberately done by psychopaths. I mean real mistakes like HIPAA violations, not clocking in late from lunch.

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Yup. Afaik those numbers run across the board, although I have seen an insanely low number for one Ontario social program a few years back (like 0.68% found to be scamming).

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I’d be interested in seeing that study or report. I wonder if they identified likely factors.

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That’s because our government, from top to bottom, has a punishment-based attitude when it comes to any and all violations of any rules or laws. And instead of precision strikes, they use flamethrowers.

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5 points

Problem is the rules aren’t enforced on everyone. Just us peons face the full extent of them.

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This is one reason im a basic income, universal healthcare, etc person. I have found the beuracracy that is put in place can usually be navigated by the gamers because that is what they do but it blocks the folk that could use the help and if they got it sometimes can be productive and even pull themselves out of the situation.

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18 points

Reminds me of… I want to say Florida requiring drug tests for welfare. They probably spent orders of magnitude more than they saved.

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I managed to get on SSDI after fucking years, before Covid, and guess what, I still can’t afford anything beyond roach motel / slum lord housing (which of course have bad water and mold and dust, and because these places don’t have a 3x rent as income requirement)…

…, and I can’t actually access medical care, as I can’t afford a car and public transit is basically non existent, and even if I could, it would take me a year of referrals and tens of thousands of dollars to access the PT care I need.

Its literally 100x easier and less expensive for me to just learn the PT I need to do from reading studies and watching youtube videos from actually qualified people.

If you get on SSDI, if you make more than about 1500 dollars a month, for 9 consecutive months, then your SSDI benefits go away, poof, all gone, until you have 0 income for another 9 months.

During which time you will be evicted and likely die on the streets as a disabled homeless person.

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Yet, somehow, (from what I understand, anyway) you’re allowed to make money from investments and other type of “non-worked” income while on SSDI. I’m pretty damn sure that $1500 limit is only for worked income. It’s almost like it’s tailor-made for rich people to be able to function on it (because they already had investments when they became disabled) and to just screw the living hell out of everyone else.

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Yep!

https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/resources/social-security-disability/ssdi/income-limits-ssdi-benefits

No SSDI Limits on Unearned Income and Assets

A person collecting SSDI can have any amount of assets and any amount of income from investments, interest, or a spouse’s income. These are all types of “unearned income.” You (and your spouse, if you’re married) can have an unlimited amount of unearned income. Unearned income includes:

interest income
dividends
rent from property you don't actively manage
income that your spouse earns
pensions
state disability payments
unemployment benefits, and
cash or gifts from friends and relatives.

Any type of gift, even an expensive gift, doesn’t affect SSDI benefits at all. You don’t have to report gifts to the SSA as income.

This is the exact and precise opposite of how you’d think it would work if you actually wanted to use policies to nudge the disabled toward finding some gainful employment but always have a backstop in case issues flair up again, and not give out benefits to those who don’t actually need them.

But no one cares.

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Thankfully(?), I am unlikely to die while on the wait list. I’ll just have to suck it up and exacerbate my disability in order to have enough numbers in the computer to prove I’m allowed to exist. Which of course means I’m not really disabled. Why live in poverty when I can die in agony?

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