I haven’t seen this kind of scratched liberalism since the outrage against account pronoun preferences years back.

Maybe “struggle session” is the wrong term because there’s a clear and obvious side for comrades and another for scratched liberals.

Maybe Hexbear needs occasional flypaper sessions for the community’s health.

51 points

Knowing from experience, we’d get the same kind of bullshit if we made posts revolving around “anti-white racism” as well.

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Being cautious of white people is absolutely the right attitude. I have white skin, and too many times have I been talking to some white guy who I thought was fairly reasonable until they hit me with some shit and assume I’ll agree because I’m a straight-passing white guy.

I 100% don’t blame anyone who’s sus of me because of my skin

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You hit the core of what people often either can’t or won’t understand; it’s about systems, not individuals.

and now that you bring it up i wonder how much liberal capitalitalist hyper individuality and meritocracy contributes to protecting whote supremacy.

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Western society does seem specifically designed to slap down all thoughts of analyzing social systems.

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liberal capitalitalist hyper individuality

This is a primary support system for white supremacy. From it spawns “I got mine, fuck you” and a number of other social poisons that maintains the white supremacist status quo.

When personal identity is perceived as something bought and worn like Twitter flair emojis, it makes being a disadvantaged person seem like a choice.

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To quote /u/BeamBrain

White supremacy is the black hole at the center of liberal thought: not directly observable, but made apparent by how all of their other ideas orbit around it.

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This is the way.

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I pass as white-ish (my ancestry is complicated) and Silicon Valley techbros often mistook me for someone that wanted to hear their “soft eugenics” arguments and the like.

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20 points

100% my same experience

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and assume I’ll agree because I’m a straight-passing white guy.

It’s crazy just how true this is. And this is especially so when you’re a very generic NPC-looking white guy to boot. Nearly all chuds just assume if you look like them you think like them. It’s like, hey, you’re a white guy so you get tons of privilege, why would you ever want that to end?

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my appearance is very much “basic white guy” jeans, T-shirt, and flannel most of the time. I’ve been talking to guys that I’ve worked with for months, long enough for me to start thinking “ok, sure maybe they’re your average"nonpolitical” guys who don’t bother with politics because they think it doesn’t really affect them, maybe I can push some union ideas, stuff like that", then they heard something on the radio and start ranting about “alphabet people” and “groomers” all while my bi ass is standing there :im-in-danger: and I start thinking about a career change

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Trying to recruit you to their party

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If you’re born into the category of straight-looking white dude then your entire life in ‘polite’ society is one long game of Secret Hitler

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7 points

Charlie Chaplain looking around all nervous

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Critical support for flypaper posting about that, then. Scratched liberals catching bans improves Hexbear.

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I’m trying to remember the name of a multiplayer game that supposedly did their own flypaper test a few years back. Allegedly they had a right-wing dogwhistle as one of their preset report-abusive-user reasons. But instead of banning players that reason was used against, it was used to build up a database of players who frequently abused the report-user function and used that specific reason frequently - and they got the ban en masse. This is only half-remembered from some /r/technology post I read a few years back so it may not have happened at all. But if it really did, I’d love to know the name of the game.

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League of legends (at least I think it was them) had a “report for being unskilled at the game” option that had no effect except for making the system start to ignore reports from whoever used it

I have no idea what game you’re thinking of, but if you remember I’d love to know too because it’s even funnier than this

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100% we would. (And damn I forgot how hard we were going off in that thread, but Erika most of all.)

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We had one like that super early on around settlers, nearish to the pronoun struggle if memory serves

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I wasn’t early enough to witness this so-called “pronoun struggle,” but if any receipts exist, I’d love to see. I haven’t committed enough masochism lately.

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Tbh in a lot of ways those early sessions were basically a relitigation of the chapo-stupidpol split on reddit. Very similar vibes.

I don’t have any receipts but I remember a lot of JAQing lol I made a post parodying that stuff at the time

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I feel like the misogyny really tends to come out most whenever there’s a discussion around cishet dating, which is interesting. Cishet dating seems like a mess, but I think it’s something that goes unexamined maybe because of how personal it is to those involved.

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We can only hope that the straights and cissies will be okay one day.

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I feel like the misogyny really tends to come out most whenever there’s a discussion around cishet dating, which is interesting. Cishet dating seems like a mess, but I think it’s something that goes unexamined maybe because of how personal it is to those involved.

I’m not sure how familiar you are with the “bro code” but a lot of the so-called rules that dudebros put out from it reek of ruinously relationship-sabotaging indoctrination. One of the most glaring examples is the edict that infidelity is something that bros are never supposed to disclose to the girlfriends or spouses of other bros, even after bros brag about it with each other and even encourage such behavior.

Paradoxically, one of the most common cliches of the “bro code” is “never trust a woman.”

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8 points

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Cishet dating threads are uninteresting to queer people so I think the cishet brainworms can spread mostly unchallenged in there

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Okay I love the term “flypaper session”. Seconding the motion to both keep that nomenclature and to deploy these sessions every so often. I feel these could be teachable moments.

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33 points

Purge early and often

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25 points

The Purge Election Year

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The forever purge (2021)

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A hot new takeaway for me from this is that while “I haven’t seen a lot of misogyny on this site” may just indicate a professional , it may also indicate a fly for the flypaper.

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In my case, I touch grass but I’m kinda dense so sometimes lib brain rot goes over my head until later.

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I haven’t seen enough misandry on this site

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That’s quite an insight.

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The blessedly ignorant and the willfully ignorant.

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