Is it ok? Is there something else you recommend instead? I tried nextcloud talk and it was pretty bad. Jitsi was ok but self hosting it looked complicated. FOSS only, of course.
XMPP is absolutely the best option if you don’t care about metadata protection.
XMPP does video chat, or at least voice? What clients do you recommend? Linux, android, and iphone are all of interest. Thanks.
Dino and Conversations. Some don’t have OEMO so be careful. And yes it has video chat.
Thanks, I see conversations on f-droid so will try it. I don’t see Dino there but that’s ok. I’ll look up what OEMO is.
I care about many things related to encrypted real-time communication, including what security engineers recommend (since their judgements probably incorporate things I probably don’t even know about or understand), so I don’t think XMPP is the best option for me.
https://soatok.blog/2024/08/04/against-xmppomemo/ https://soatok.blog/2024/07/31/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-signal-competitor/
I found it to be inconsistent about receiving messages on Android.
Having good luck with SimpleX at the moment.
I tried to use it, but I couldn’t get it working (I couldn’t receive any messages, and neither could my brother). In the end, I opted for Matrix instead.
I do !
works pretty well on both AOSP phones and gnu+linux desktops. Sad thing though is that I don’t like using flatpak, and I prefer distro native built software, and on Artix/Arch, there are times where the version between the distro version is slightly outdated with regards to the mobile version, and that makes things not to work. This is mainly an issue ever since jami decided to stop supporting the gtk client on the desktop, to me the qt experience have been sad. Not sure if someone has forked the gtk client, that would be great.
So I’m using xmpp as my main messenger, and keep trying jami when it works.
I really like the p2p approach from jami, and also the way they care for those with no huge batteries phones, given they added support for unified push notifications, which can be of course avoided if required for extra privacy. Given my use case, I can’t turn jami into my main messenger yet, but I keep trying, :) Meanwhile xmpp is there for me.
Thanks, that is helpful. Have you tried building from source on the desktop? Right now I’ve only used the fdroid apk’s. It works on one of my phones (Android 14) but not on the other (Android 7).
Are you sure the phone it doesn’t work on is older than android 7? According to its f-droid jami URL its latest version as well as two more also documented there, they all work on android 7 or later.
I use LOS4uG, and I’m currently on android 14, so no need to build jami myself. Can you enable “unstable updates” on f-droid’s “expert mode”? Perhaps then you get latest app, and that one works better. Otherwise you can report an issue to the android client, and perhaps you get guidance from them. You can also use their forum to ask questions. I have filed issues only so far.
Element is pretty good
