157 points

Is the future just having a human slave in a third world country strap into VR and carry your groceries for you?

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That’s basically what happens right now. Remember Amazon’s smart grocery store? It was just people in India watching cameras. Computer vision wasn’t capable of it.

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56 points

AI (Anonymous Indians)

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53 points

Makes me wonder how much of Tesla’s “Full Self Driving” is just some dude playing GTA VR with you in the passenger seat.

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If it was actually that it would work better…

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Well, I think the self driving taxis across the us apparently need human interaction every 6 minutes on average… So are they self driving? I don’t know.

We can’t use our phones and drive, but someone can have a screen and drive 6 cars at the same time…

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That would probably be better than waymo

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I’m pretty sure this story was blown out of proportion and exaggerated. These people were training and validating the automated systems not watching the cameras 24/7.

That’s how AI is trained, manual intervention. It wasn’t working as well as they hoped, but it wasn’t humans watching cameras in real time.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133029/amazon-just-walk-out-cashierless-ai-india

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It sounds like the best way to bootstrap a machine learning system. You generate the data the system will be seeing in production along with the proper labels. Then in a later stage you can start doing reinforcement learning.

The problem is the lying about it.

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6 points

That’s not true at all. I personally know a person who worked on that technology.

Human beings got involved only when necessary. Do you really think Amazon wants to pay humans to be cashiers?

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9 points

Do you really think Amazon wants to pay humans to be cashiers?

No but if they spend a bunch of money and time designing it, spend a bunch of time and money retrofitting stores, and then a bunch of time and money marketing it and the technology doesn’t actually work when it’s ‘showtime,’ I can easily see a company with deep pockets like Amazon faking it all by hiring dirt cheap labor to make it seem like it works rather than the alternative.

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112 points

Turk in a box you say? I’m shocked! Shocked!

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32 points

Well, not that shocked.

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69 points

We live in a fucking nightmare. Rich assholes wining and dining with robots while most of the world fucking suffers. It’s actually crazy. We are bringing into our reality what was just a bad dream like 50 years ago. This is just wild man.

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54 points

All those sci-fi novels were meant as warnings not instruction manuals

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6 points

Torment Nexus

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I’m betting my two balls that Elysium becomes a real thing

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Whaaaat? A company whose market valuation is almost entirely built on a perpetual lie about automation they are delivering “someday” lied about their ability to deliver automation??

I am shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

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The people apologizing for this sort of behavior, even here, just shows how easy it is to manipulate people.

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