So I’ve heard and seen the newest launch, and I thought for a private firm it seemed cool they were able to do it on their own, but I’m scratching my head that people are gushing about this as some hail mary.

I get the engineering required is staggering when it comes to these rocket tests, but NASA and other big space agencies have already done rocket tests and exploring bits of the moon which still astounds me to this day.

Is it because it’s not a multi billion government institution? When I tell colleagues about NASA doing stuff like this yeaaaars ago they’re like “Yea yea but this is different it’s crazy bro”

Can anyone help me understand? Any SpaceX or Tesla fans here?

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first of all, allow me to State my opinion of Elon musk in one short sentence.

second of all, I will answer your question.

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Wait, when did NASA land a fully reusable rocket like fucking Buck Rogers?

Then do it again, but capture it with the freakin’ launch tower?

When did NASA even have a reusable rocket? Oh, the shuttle, the bastardized money pit for NSA/NRO/Air Force, that appears to have been designed to orbit a surveillance satellite chassis, which most people know as Hubble (it’s one of many, this one being used to surveil the universe, instead of the earth).

And the shuttle was a quasi-reusable orbiter, not a rocket.

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Did you just talk shit on the shuttle and Hubble? Whaaat?

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The shuttle was a massive and unsafe waste of space ship.

Not sure what Hubble did to catch this stray however.

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I believe NASA could also refurbish and re-use the SRBs, but the big orange tank was expended with every flight. The Space Shuttle Main Engines are actually still in service, we have a small inventory of them and they either have been or will be flown since 2011.

But I would definitely say that the moment the Falcon Heavy’s two booster stages returned to Cape Canaveral and made synchronized powered landings was the moment 21st century space flight arrived. SpaceX is head and shoulders above what anyone else is doing with reusable rockets and spacecraft. Meanwhile Boeing is in the broom closet huffing Lysol and muttering about quarterly earnings.

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They could reuse the SRB but the cost to refurbish them was like 90% of a new one. So it wasn’t terribly useful.

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Can I just add that “fucking Buck rogers” is an excellent phrase and all three words can mean sex and when combined they don’t.

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Honestly “Buck fucking Rogers” is a pretty big missed opportunity

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Both are doing impressive things, but only one is deliberately using media to build hype.

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They are also very different organizations with very different goals.

NASA is focussed on science, they are trying to learn as much as possible about our solar system and the universe.

SpaceX by contrast is focussed on engineering. They aren’t trying to find life on Mars, they are trying to build the ferry service to it.

When NASA built rockets back in the 60’s, space flight was a science problem. We needed to figure out if it was even possible to do so. Can we even get a capsule into space? Can humans survive in zero gravity? Nowadays space flight is an engineering problem. We know it’s possible, we know the math, but can we actually build those things?

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Also, economics of the equation are important. NASA is funded by american tax payer money, so politics gets involved. SpaceX is a business, so normal ameircan capitalism applies here.

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SpaceX is not run by Elon and he’s kept from being involved closely by a buffer of people that keep him from getting too close to making any “elon” level changes.

SpaceX is successful despite Musk, not because of. And the woman who runs it knows that and keeps Musk away from any important decisions or impacts.

So the stuff they’re doing is legit, cool aerospace stuff.

It’s just not something Musk should take credit for. He does/will. But he shouldn’t. He’s a hack.

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But he shouldn’t. He’s a hack.

He’s also a stupid doodoo brain, with poop and pee in his pants! Cacca doodoo!

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Gee wizz mate, calm the frik down, we don’t need that language around here!

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That’s not true in the least. He is CEO, CTO and Chief rocket designer. He’s deeply involved in every step

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“deeply involved in every step” absolutely not, because if he was it would be painfully obvious.

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He’s far too busy with X, Trump, and his relationship drama to have any time to do anything close to being involved. Of the company’s he’s bought or been involved in creating SpaceX is toward the bottom of his priorities from what I hear.

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Nice

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He can give himself whatever titles he likes, that doesn’t mean he makes any positive technical contribution.

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Watch a few of the multi hour interviews he given while raining through explaining everything. He knows what he’s doing if you’ve not been paying attention. Lots of reasons to not like him but your completely wrong on this one

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I’m guessing they let him name the Of Course I Still Love You?

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Those names are taken from Iain M. Banks’ Culture sci-fi series.

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Which is hilarious, as the eponymous Culture is the epitome of luxury gay space anarchism. Pan-sexual, non-monogamous space hippies that can (and do) change their biological sex just by thinking about it. People so past the idea of “gender” that they consider giving any serious weight to the concept barbaric.

I know it’s a rhetorical question: but is Elon stupid or something?

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My guy they just caught an object falling from space using a pair of giant chopsticks

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They caught a building, with a building holding chopsticks.

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https://youtu.be/b28zbsnk-48?t=412

That thing is about 70 meters long and weights 300 tons and some.

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Technically not from space since the lower stage never made it past the Karman line, which is 100km above sea level.

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It reached the altitude of 96km, not space but not far either.

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