MAYBE, just don’t do activism in your place of work. for anything. especially if it’s a publically funded thing.
I fail to see anywhere in the article where they talk about the flag being related to activism. What exactly were they trying to accomplish with the flag? Where did you see the proof of that in the article?
The display included a book with this symbol and “the books Emma & Mommy Talk to God, The Color Purple, Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Separate is Never Equal, Wonder, and To Kill a Mockingbird”. Is the rest of it also activism? Or just the flag because they mistook it for being about gay people? Why were the rest of the books ok? Or are they not in your eyes?
It really speaks to the state of your mind if you think not hating someone is activism, be it because of their sexuality or neurodivergence.
it really speaks to your ignorance if you think that’s what I meant. Putting up ANY kind of signage like that regardless if it was for the alphabet crowd or nd crowds, in a library that’s funded by the public, is in poor taste. Pretty sure they aren’t going to allow them to put up a straight pride sign, or a “im neuro-normal” sign right? And they have to be dense to put up rainbows in JUNE and not have people assume it’s a gay thing. use the grey matter between your ears, huh?
Hey man, I agree with you.
I think we should take the signage down too.
No more library signs or signs labeling the aisles, right?
In fact we should get rid of anything from there that has any writing at all!
What about a sign that simply says “Everyone is welcome here”, would that be acceptable to you?
I totally agree. The anti LGBT activists from the board need to be fired immediately.
remove the LGBT activists while your at it. activism doesn’t belong in publicly funded institutions, regardless of what it’s promoting.
if you read the article, youd see that they were neither lgbt nor “activists”. They were simply doing their job and making a display on an interesting topic of books about neurodivergency. Would you also call for their removal if they’d made a display on cooking since that is “activism” to hurt the feelings of the “women are there to make me a sandvich” crowd?
Stop being a bigot and people won’t need to defend their existence. You don’t yell at the bullied kid for hitting his bully. The bully wouldn’t have gotten hit if he wasn’t a bully.
How EXACTLY am I being a Bigot? Maybe use words that are less trendy. Not just ones that mean “people with opinions you don’t like”.
When those opinions are bigotry and you’re here defending those opinions and making people against bigotry out to be the crazy ones, we know where you stand.
Also funny how you claim I’m just saying the trendy thing while you talk about people hating others simply for having a different opinion. It’s projection the whole way down.
I don’t understand how having a rainbow nearby isn’t protected by 1st amendment rights.
Freedom of speech is the right to not be punished by the government, not private people.
I could be fired from a job for saying I like the Ninja Turtles and the newest remake wasn’t that bad. But the govt can’t do shit about my awesome movie choices.
Now this is a library, so I think it would come down to who runs it and their policies. For example, I was in the USMC and while I uniform I couldn’t openly support any political stances or party.
I’m guessing https://xkcd.com/1357/
IANAL but, if it’s a publicly owned and operated library, and someone acting on behalf of the government fired these people for some sort of protected speech (which isn’t always just talking/writing) then I’m pretty sure that’s a 1a violation.
Though I could use some clarity on any distinction between a persons own speech, and speech that could be seen as that of the library.
Only kind of related, but I just learned from another Lemmy thread that while public nudity is illegal in major cities in Oregon, if you are riding a bicycle while nude, it is considered “speech protected under the first amendment” because it can reasonably be assumed you are protesting against cars.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2008/11/judge_throws_out_charges_again.html
Edit: Also for the record, it’s not “whataboutism” because a religious book was part of the display with the symbol for neuro divergence. Just fyi.
“The display also included the books Emma & Mommy Talk to God, The Color Purple, Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Separate is Never Equal, Wonder, and To Kill a Mockingbird.”
No, it’s not. It’s an example for you to understand. Religion, particular Christianity, is everywhere in some parts of the US. Most people probably don’t even notice. To others, a rainbow is the same way. It’s a pretty decoration just like a cross or the signs up in my kid’s school, In God We Trust. No one would say a cross is political, but it is absolutely in support of, and in certain locations, normalizing that religion should exist here. And there are absolutely people who advocate unless you are one particular religion or subset of that religion you are not a “real” American.
It makes sense to equate showing Christian paraphernalia with showing support for LGBTQ, or in this case neuro divergent people, because of how two sides see them. I’m not Christian. I don’t want my children raised Christian or in any particular religion for that matter. But they are being exposed to multiple aspects of religion every day in school. Is that not indoctrination, however subtle? Those who argue against the pride flag being shown in public insist that the publicity of the flag indoctrinates children.
Now which is actually correct? Does a flag celebrating differences make it more likely that children will be non-heteronormative or neuro divergent? Or does it make it more likely that the children will feel accepted and not hide who they are? Does exposing children to multiple parts of religious practices make it more likely that those children will believe that said religion is true and more likely to hide if they don’t believe it because everyone around them seems to?
In your view are pride flags political? If so, why? Who made them about politics?
Someone didn’t read the article. I’m just gonna go full bore at the get go. Be very careful how you use your frozen peaches son, cuz you’re actually posting in a .de instance with rules against promoting nazism.
Which you aren’t doing yet, of course. And you won’t. Will you.
Because pick a different political symbol that you dont agree with and reevaluate the situation
Damn, I don’t know whether I should be outraged at trying to censor a library or at succeeding based on making a mistake. How is censoring a library even a thing?
(Yes, I live in an area that respects knowledge , freedom and individual rights, why do you ask?)
I’m sure they would also happily attempt elimination of neurodivergent people.
Until they realize how neuro divergent they all are, they just hide it all in cult nonsense.
Asa neurodivergent person, I’m insulted at being grouped with all the hateful bigots. Yes, I’m sure some of them are neurodivergent (just by sheer chance), but being a hateful bigot doesn’t mean that they are neurodivergent.
Oh %100 I agree. I’m not implying one means the other. I’m implying they are too ignorant to understand what being neuro divergent is. I’m ND as well, and even “normal people” have trouble understanding it. I doubt a redneck who thinks cartoons will torn his kid gay gets it.
Maybe but they also might just do away with all psychiatric treatments, who needs “happy pills” for depression when you can just praise the Lord?
“I do not want any kind of rainbow display especially in this month.” Imagine hating the idea of diversity so much that any kind of rainbow offends you. These people won’t stop until the entire world is gray.
They won’t stop until all the LGBTQ people (and Jews, people of color, etc) are dead.
You should see the comments on instagram reels whenever a teacher posts something and there’s a rainbow in the background, like just a rainbow on the wall in a kindergarten class or something, so many people absolutely fucking lose their minds and spew the most vile shit at these teachers, it’s bizarre.
That’s how social media works. All it takes is one person to find it and post it to their network.
Man, these people are gonna be unhinged once they find out a rainbow is our visible light spectrum and that we technically see it everywhere. The kicker is that “God” put it there.
Oh boy are they unhinged.
“Give it back”. Apparently god isn’t powerful enough to take it back himself. Weirdest game of keep away ever.
