For example, on WhatsApp, use the whole 25 character limit for profile name. Examples:

Bob Moved To Signal.org

Alice MovedTo Signal.org

CharlieMovedTo Signal.org

Say Signal.org, not Signal, because they won’t know it’s an app.

Use your about section too. Same on Discord, Steam, Instagram, etc.

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I thought people had been moving OFF signal lately?

Personally, I’m on signal, but never signed up for a Meta property because, well, it was obvious from the start that they had bad privacy controls that depended only on corporate promises.

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It’s just an example. Put any libre software.

If you don’t have bad stuff, this advice isn’t for you but you can share it with others.

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Why are people moving off signal?

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I think because simpleX is more open source, self-hosted, and maybe slightly more anonymous. Not sure how the usability trades off for that if at all because I haven’t used it (I mainly use signal and discord)

It also doesn’t seem to be a mass migration by any means, just that simpleX is a bit better if you are super hardcore about your privacy.

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Its not more open source. It is at all. Signal is dependent on the backend which is as proprietary as bluesky. You can absolutely not self host it which technically binds you to the next single point of failure.

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Its a LOT more anonymous, not slightly.

For the overwhelming majority of users phone number alone = no anonymity, then there’s the fact you’re relying on a corporation to store all your messages on their closed source centralized server…

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No one is moving off Signal, don’t listen to him

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It’s OK to stay on signal but to say no one is switching is untrue.

It was pretty small numbers before (darknet) but a youtuber called Mental outlaw did a video on it recently and now it’s exploded into the more mainstream privacy communities.

It isn’t perfect, and signal has a lot of perks but there’s no need to literally ignore new developments

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Some people realized when Signal removed SMS support on Android that Signal is a private org that can make changes as they see fit, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

Other people get stuck on the fact that Signal requires a legitimate phone number in order to operate.

In both of these situations, the people up in arms usually don’t understand WHY the changes were privacy and security improvements and make Signal a better platform. But the argument about not being fully in control still stands.

So it could be argued that Signal may keep you safer than if you try to roll your own Matrix or SimpleX server, and it’s definitely a better platform for anyone who wouldn’t have a clue how to set up and secure their own server. But people have definitely had reasons for leaving it.

Personally, I use both Signal and Matrix, and push average people towards Signal.

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Some use open source alternatives since signal still has the off switch to your communication. I personally use matrix for over a year and its pretty good. But its not polished so you need patience and a good admin.

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I’ve started to get much more interested in SimpleX as the database management is much easier and disappearing messages exist and while that is not a privacy function it is a great database management function to automatically have messages removed

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Most are staying, but there’s a growing shift to simplex among privacy/anon focused people

  1. Signal uses closed source and centralized servers to deliver all your messages. Some people don’t like their communications being dependant on a corporations computer, and would rather maximize data sovereignty when possible.

  2. phone number requrement is unacceptable to some people

If SimpleX makes bad choices it can be forked and self hosted, whereas we would be locked in with signal and at the compamys whims

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Nah, its been becoming more popular, at least in my circles.

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Kinda cringe ngl. Makes it sound you joined a crypto scheme.

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Imagine not trying to fight network effects because it’s “kinda cringe”. Of all the reasons not to do it, this screams “I’m insecure” the loudest.

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I imagined it and felt more secure in not proselytizing.

“Attention all, I went somewhere else!” OK love that for you.

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See, now that’s a valid reason!

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It’s working. I’ll do it more.

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I am sorry you feel that people doing the good fight is “cringe”

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people won’t follow you to the new platform if you seem dumb

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PSA the mission never ends, padre! Last I heard Joseph of Arimathea had 26 conversions in AD 46.

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Bob moved to -messenger-app-that-fails-to-deli ver-notifications

Bob moved to -messenger-app-that-never-syncs-properly

Bob moved to -messenger-app-nobody-uses

Bob has problems.

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Bob had friends.

Bob has no friends.

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i feel this so hard

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Neat idea, or, you could just tell them directly and be like “hey I’m not gonna respond here due to [reasons], come find me on signal if ya wanna chat”

People are usually more engaged when you communicate to them directly

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Both. You got time to respond to everyone, go ahead but I suggest an auto reply bot.

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