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As someone recently told me, they don’t worry about saving lives, they worry about saving souls.

You need to abide by the quaint rules of the magical sky daddy for that, even if they don’t make sense.

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Except clearly any aborted fetus would immediately go to heaven based on what’s written in the bible. In fact, heaven should be absolutely completely full of dead babies based on miscarriages, stillbirths, etc. if you believe that they get a soul at the moment of conception.

So that logic doesn’t really make sense either. Which is par for the course.

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Uhh no? Non-baptized souls go to limbo according to Christian theology.

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That depends on which flavor of Christianity you’re looking at, but even the Catholics don’t think they go to Limbo, the pope had an entire study done on it, and the result was “we hope they go to heaven but we don’t know”

A lot of the other denominations don’t subscribe to the original sin shtick, and therefore babies would go to heaven even without being baptized.

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3 points

Catholics

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I was juuuuuuust about to explain how making sense isn’t a requirement to them, until I saw your last sentence. Then I knew you already get it.

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Actually, nobody goes to heaven when they die (according to the bible). Everyone must wait until judgement day when all the graves, etc, open and we all face judgement at that point. This surprised me when I first learned it because it goes against all the Christian culture I’ve ever been taught and experienced.

So grandma isn’t currently in heaven no matter how good she was.

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That’s a huge relief that perhaps my grandparents haven’t seen my embarrassing moments after all.

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and judgement is not “brought back to life just to be sent back immediately”… no, it will be a good span of time to live without evil on the earth…

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I dont think it really has anything to do with that. A state recently sued due to abortion and teen pregnancy reduction efforts leading to decreased teenage pregnancy rates arguing something along the lines of our populations are going down and it will cost us in population, political representation, and federal resources.

This is about cheap/free labor, disenfranchising women, and maintaining a permanent disabled and poverty-stricken underclasses that keep everyone on up in line with the hierarchy

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5 points

Stop being right!

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3 points

sounds left to me

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But the Skyfather himself has given us directions to induce a miscarriage with a tabernacle dust smoothie.

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Just guessing here, but I’d assume it’s because the unborn have potential and the bad guys had their chance. I don’t agree, but that’s what I assume being around some people like that…

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You are a bad man and you should feel bad about yourself

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Well, I at least thought it was a little funny.

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I’m assuming it was sarcasm/a joke too, but hard to know these days, without either knowing someone, or the obvious /s. Some crazy people out there…

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I immediately recognized your username. Maybe take a break from the asshole shtick for sometime… and also from online.

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OMG I made myself a celebrity here

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Arguably, an unborn baby cannot be guilty of anything. But an adult sentenced to death is often guilty of some horrible crime. So if you accept killing as a punishment, there is no contradiction.

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Until you realize that our court system is FULL of false arrests, and the courts have some stupid high number like 98% conviction rate.

They say “take the deal, or the court will fuck you”.

2 years vs 30 years.

And then later they run a second trial for something else that has a death penalty as the outcome. The jury is shown this guy, already in prison, for a semi-related charge. Already convicted of the other charge. So his ability to appear innocent is already swayed. And now suddenly there’s no deal. The court goes full hammer. The jury is made to believe he did it 100%.

And he can’t say he didn’t do it, and wasn’t even there, because he ALREADY pleaded guilty to the other charge which would place him there.

So now you got a populace, who wasn’t in either court session, not seeing how this escalated, and not willing to believe our court system may be flawed. Just kill the criminal and move on, right?

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You are overstating it. all evidence I can find is only a small percentage are not guilty. Of course that small possibility is enough for me to be against the death pentalty. If we had a way to be 100% sure of guilt I’d favor death but since we don’t I can’t go that far.

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I blame religion.

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It’s not all the same people: Roman Catholics, for example, tend to oppose both.

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Roman Catholic doctrine opposes both, but the bishops don’t go around threatening to withhold religious services for politicians who allow the death penalty like they do with pro-choice politicians…

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I could have sworn that there was a news story of Peloci being denied the sacrament due to her supporting an abortion bill.

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