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Probably pointless fact check for the non word salad part:

Elon has never landed anything on the moon.

Further context:

Elon has received roughly $3 billion of taxpayer money before 2022 (and another $1.7 billion in 2022) to create a system capable (Starship + Heavy Booster) of delivering and returning humans to and from the moon by Q1 2025.

It was supposed to have conducted an orbital flight test in early 2022, and so far has only accomplished a few semi-successful suborbital flights, which have prompted Elon to downgrade the supposed mass to orbit capacity in half, from 100 to 50 tons, (proven cargo capacity so far is 0, even for suborbital), and state that there will now be a Starship/Heavy Booster 2 and 3, entirely new and untested rockets which appear nowhere in any of the government funding agreements.

In orbit refueling has not been demonstrated, Starship has not returned from orbit or suborbit or the moon or anywhere other than small test hops without exploding on impact or melting in reentry…

…when it should have completed an uncrewed Moon landing and return about 8 or 9 months ago, and by now should be human rated.

… And this is the person Trump wants to be in charge of finding and eliminating wasteful government spending.

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You can’t fact check dementia

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We can try!

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You can try, but the dementia will always win as it’s a progressive disease with no cure.

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Dementia is a syndrome, multiple symptoms correlated from diseases, like Alzheimer’s… nbd tho

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The king of false promises.

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Yeah the fourth year in a row he said fully self driving cars are going to be market ready in a few months it really sank. Also remember when Google was trying to develop a self driving car and got millions of dollars and several years into the testing process and concluded modern technology is so far away from being able to make a self driving car that they stopped trying for the foreseeable future? That’s fascinating.

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What I find really wild how few years ago he was basically trying to appeal at the green crowd to sell his cars as a progressive revolution. But he his showing his real self now to sell to conservative people. It shows that it’s never really been to be greener, but only to make money. I’ve always hated to see people seeing him has a demi god. As it’s really unhealthy to see anyone that way.

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Additional info: The Beresheet lander that crashed into the moon a few years back was launched on a Falcon 9, but after that, he had nothing to do with it. It also crash landed.

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HOW THE FRESH HELL IS KAMALA SEEN AS INCOMPETENT AND DUMB WHEN THIS MAN BREATHES? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

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I realized in a reddit argument a while back that one huge difference between Trump supporters and the rest of us is: Trump supporters expect less from Trump. Hold him to a lower standard than they hold themselves or non-supporters to.

In the argument, I had a supporter tell me that “raking the leaves” was advocating wildfire management – including controlled burns. And the person followed it up with remarks along the lines of, “you should have been smart enough to know that’s what he was saying.”

Which was crazy to me because:

  • they were measuring my intelligence by my ability to come up with numerous unique rephrasings and potential meanings to Trump’s words
  • they were scoring higher than Trump by their own intelligence metric
    • Trump could only come up with “raking the leaves” and the commenter came up with “as a country, we should be putting more resources into wildfire management”, a much more coherent and intelligent phrasing
  • in expecting me to be able to read multiple meanings into “raking the leaves”, this person was ALSO expecting me to score higher on this measure of intelligence than Trump. And calling me stupid for not outscoring Trump.

Basically told me that if I wasn’t smarter than Trump, I was stupid.

I pointed this out to them and never got a response.

Anyways, different standards. According to Trump supporters:

  • if you’re no smarter than Trump, you are an idiot;
  • if you’re no kinder than Trump, you are sadistic and malicious;
  • if you are no more effective than Trump, you are useless,
  • But Trump is the smartest, kindest, most valuable person there is.
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This is the best explanation of his cult that I have ever seen! Wow. Honesty VP Harris should just read off your explanation in her next attack ad.

No joke, you should consider cleaning that up and posting it.

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It’s a common tactic on the right. Trump says some nonsense. Then the left makes fun of it for being nonsense. Then the right pretends there is a reasonable explanation besides Trump’s mind deteriorating. They use this made up explanation to attack the left’s intelligence for not getting the made up explanation. When in fact they are in engaging in bad-faith gas lighting to cover for Trump’s incoherence and incompetence.

It would be useful to ask them why they feel the need to make stuff up to cover for Trump’s failings. Since the justification they made up isn’t real, Trump just rambles incoherently, there is nothing to get. It’s summarized by the saying the emperor has no clothes. edit: typo

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There’s been this idea circulating among Christians that Trump is actually chosen by God to help protect his people. This is because there are instances in the Bible of “outsiders” being chosen by God to protect the Jews in the Old Testament. They just see it as another one of those instances. Now, we’re dealing with faith. They can overlook his gaffes, his very un-Christian behaviors, bad perspective on reality, all of the issues. Because they know he’s not one of them. They don’t care. They have faith that he will protect them and deliver the United States to Christian rule despite his seemingly sinful ways.

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I know of a Christian who believed Trump is the anti-christ, as foretold by Revelations and made direct comparisons. But he still voted for Trump anyway, because he could never support a Democrat. I live in an area where majority of Christians believe that Jesus actually would in fact forgive them for their actions that are antithetical to the Bible and cherry-picked Bible quotes. He was very homophobic too, so I deliberately dressed more queer to be irritating.

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I will never, ever understand Christians. Jews are God’s chosen people, they are the ones who are to be defended and cherished, their state should be defended… Why aren’t Christians Jewish? Why be Christians at all?

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I need to save this, because it’s so well put.

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I’ve had more normal conversations with people on the tail end of a 3 day meth binge and I am not exaggerating in the slightest

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Unironically same, I’ve had convos with multiple meth and fentanyl addicts that make more sense.

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Before the disease takes its toll, I have found alcoholics and addicts to be genuinely smart people. Priorities are usually a bit out of whack, but other than that, I usually can’t say anything too bad unless there is some serious criminal activity at play.

While I don’t go to AA anymore due to some core philosophical disagreements, there is still some good content to be found. Mainly, that alcoholics and addicts are simply sick, in the context of this discussion.

Once you get past the outward issues usually on display, there are real people behind the mask of addiction. Unfortunately, it’s only a matter of time before the brain-rot kicks in and most hope is lost. (I have seen some really cool recovery cases though.)

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My mother with early onset dementia addicted to ambien has similar coherency.

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Give this man the launch codes. Just put me out of my misery.

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rocket ships that land within 12 inches on the moon of where they wanted to land

That’s Japan, not Elon.

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Engine back guarantee. We’ll land within 12 inches or you get the engines back!

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