One of the things that sets Lemmy, and the collective fediverse apart from other platforms is its community. Recently, there’s been a large influx of new users (myself included; thus I apologize if this is not the right location for this post). A toxic trait associated with other platforms is the incorrect use of the downvote. Historically, this function was used to hide comments that detracted from the conversation; however, next to no one uses it as intended, and it’s primarily used as a I disagree with you button.
I don’t think we’ll ever change how the downvote is used now - it’s current use is too entrenched. Instead, I suggest that rather than just downvoting and moving on with something you disagree with, that users expand on why they disagree with the post or comment. Not only does this generate more content, but it also can take the conversation into new areas and offer new perspectives that the OP had not considered. You might even actually change a mind or two by doing so, thus bringing people around to see your side of the coin. Commenting (with civility) on stuff you don’t agree with is beneficial on all fronts. It promotes discussion, and it offers new perspectives. It also minimizes the likelihood of echo chambers forming. That last bit is what I’ve come to value here the most. Other sites are just massive echo chambers where there’s a rote response or opinion. This creates a stale environment for users, and deters people from commenting. Why comment, when you know what the answer will be, or that you’ll be jumped on at the first word of disagreement with the entrenched opinion?
But what if I don’t have time to comment to support my downvote? Simple - don’t downvote unless the item you’re downvoting truly detracts from the conversation (as per the functions original intent).
I realize this is a bit of a rant/ramble, but I think by actively putting more effort into our comments and downvotes, we can make lemmy an even richer community than it already is.
Thanks for taking the time to read,
- Shovel
I didn’t find it very hard to change how I downvoted comments. Of course what counts as contributing to a conversation is subjective, but I don’t think that should stop people from using it to decide whether to upvote or downvote. I downvote low effort comments, inflammatory comments, rude comments, and comments that spiral into tangents about unrelated topics. I upvote comments using my own judgement to encourage healthy discussions where people contribute differing ideas. I may not agree with every comment I upvote.
Be a better lemming and realise this is the fediverse and not just lemmy. Why so specific when it is relevant to all users of the fediverse?
Downvoting is a trait specific to Lemmy servers, and not pressnt Mastodon and other Fediverse services with “reacts” (a sad emoji would still count as a “like” on score-based ActivityPub servers)… That appears to be the main focus of this post.
Of course, be a nice member of the internet community is something that should be said across the Fediverse regardless of platform.
The intent might be there, but functionally it’s a vote of good or bad. The notion of it being up versus down, left/right, red/green doesnt matter, people want an easy way to express an opinion. Look at all the issues it caused when YouTube removed the down vote and people could no longer express disapproval with a click. If someone is being activley detrimental then mod actions come into play at that point.
Some instances removed the downvote button. And I think it’s a good decision, personally speaking. If you like it, you upvote it. If you don’t like it, move on. Less toxicity, and less emotional damage when someone has rejection sensitiveness.
