Announcement by the creator: https://forum.syncthing.net/t/discontinuing-syncthing-android/23002

Unfortunately I don’t have good news on the state of the android app: I am retiring it. The last release on Github and F-Droid will happen with the December 2024 Syncthing version.

Reason is a combination of Google making Play publishing something between hard and impossible and no active maintenance. The app saw no significant development for a long time and without Play releases I do no longer see enough benefit and/or have enough motivation to keep up the ongoing maintenance an app requires even without doing much, if any, changes.

Thanks a lot to everyone who ever contributed to this app!

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Oh my goodness! Syncthing without Android leaves me screwed. My whole digital life revolves around it.

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Oh don’t worry to much, mine too: If there wasn’t an alternative for syncthing on android, I might have kept it on lifesupport :)

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What is this alternative of which you speak?

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Syncthing-fork. Both show if you search for Syncthing in fdroid. Since imsodin seems to be OP Dev maintainer for Syncthing, i think he is referring to the fork.

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Only one I can think of is Resilio, but it’s hard on RAM and battery for large folders.

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What’s the history behind this? Why could the changes be done upstream, necessitating a fork?

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Sounds like the original maintainer is tired of maintaining it, and the amount of community support wasn’t enough to justify continuing to put in the effort. And then Google’s packaging process pushed it over the edge, hence retiring the project.

The fork is just another person deciding to take up maintenance of the project.

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4 points

Mine too!

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FolderSync is a good alternative, more battery friendly too!

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I am not the creator, funnily that is/was one of the Lemmy creators: Nutomic :)
I am a syncthing co-maintainer that kept the android app on life support since a while.

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Thank you for all of your hard work!

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THANK you for the hard work! Your app is part of my phone photo and appdata backup.

Side question: Will you continue with a fork for f-droid?

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As the statement says I wont - it will be fully discontinued. This statement applies to the official app only. It doesn’t say anything about other apps or forks - any existing once can and hopefully will continue to exist. Also all the code is free.

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Sad to hear but my point still stands: Thank you very much for your work.
Any recommendation for an Android fork or any other way to make it work on mobile without an app (if that’s even possible)

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In that case, could the syncthing-fork app be renamed to syncthing, now that it’ll probably be the main Android app for Syncthing?

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Thank you for your work!!!

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funnily that is/was one of the Lemmy creators: Nutomic :)

Plot twist

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This is sad. Google Play should never hold this much weight in the self hosted community. For Android users dedicated to open source software, F-Droid is the target.

I don’t think SyncThing users would have much issue with the app disappearing from Google. Doing away with Google is the goal.

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The problem is not “Syncthing users” it is the others that we bring along with us.

I already have F-Droid on my phone, but the dozen others that I have promoted Syncthing to over the years do not. This is going to cause a bunch of problems.

This is much more important than what you portray here.

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That and the shrinking ability to grant access to device storage. If that becomes an option only on rooted phones (which seems like the directly Google is heading) it will make the audience for such an app much smaller.

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If google heads that way I’ll head somewhere else.

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And yet Resilio can access a lot more than ST, even without root.

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That and the shrinking ability to grant access to device storage.

Isn’t that helping the average users with security in a way that a scam app can’t see much else than itself?

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26 points

The point you raise reminds me of when Signal dropped SMS support, after my efforts to convert all the non techie people in my life over to it. So sad when it happens…

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So sad when it happens…

I don’t follow - do people still seriously use SMS? I for one try to use it as little as possible.

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I was reminded of the same thing.

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As much as I want to use F-Droid, my work blocks all third party app stores so it’s either have access to my work stuff on one phone (via profiles) or dual wield two phones.

I lack the patience to dual wield again. It’s very annoying.

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Is this your personal phone? If your work were to dictate what you are allowed to install on your personal phone, that’d be a serious overstepping of bounds.

Perhaps you can sneak in f-droid via adb install and give it app installation permissions via ADB though.

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My primary phone belongs to my work. I get a stipend every two years that essentially allows me to buy any supported phone I want.

The conditions are that it’s managed by them via MDM and all my work stuff is on the work profile side.

It is a choice I make since it allows me to not carry two phones. I did that for the first two years at my company and it was annoying.

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If “your” phone belongs to your employer that’s the choice you made. It isn’t yours.

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I’m annoyed to see you getting down voted - I had a similar issue years ago with my work MacBook (couldn’t run a custom WM because any modification to the Finder was blocked without putting the machine into “unsafe” mode).

I love OSS, but without a verifiable way to distribute it large swaths of the workforce won’t be able to use it.

F-Droid is great, but sadly it isn’t enough.

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I was today years old when I learned that you can run a custom WM on a Mac.

That’s like…the equivalent of a coca cola soda machine dispensing Pepsi.

And in terms of down votes, I don’t really care too much. It evens out overtime.

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They said somewhere that the play store thing is not the reason, it’s just one of the more recent issues.

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They’re a cloud company, their mission statement is to eradicate us. It’s like IT trying to stamp out shadow IT.

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130 points

I’ve installed it from F-droid but still. Fuck google. They really do need breaking up.

I heavily rely on Syncthing. Does anyone know what the outlook is for Syncthing-fork, or what the likelihood is of someone taking on maintenance of this version?

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The way i understand it, this stops maintenance for Syncthing, but Syncthing-fork in fdroid will continue its development and support as usual. Both show if you do a Syncthing search in fdroid. The fork is more up to date with features.

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4 points

Peachy. Sounds like there’s nothing to worry about then (from a user POV).

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8 points

Good idea to send donations to the syncthing-fork devs to keep it alive though.

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6 points

Yah I mean the notice for the storage access has only been five years. How can they do that.

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86 points

Hoping it remains viable for a long time without updates. Syncing my KeePass database is really key for me. I need to fluidly add and read passwords from at least 3 devices.

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With today’s BitWarden drama, I planned to use KeePass with SyncThing for like an hour before seeing this :(((

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8 points

I use bitwarden. Are they not good anymore? Data Breach?

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I too use Bitwarden, self-hosted. What’s up with Bitwarden? I haven’t heard anything (other than some of the Keypass master race sometimes throwing dirt at it).

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Got any links to the bitwarden drama? I missed it.

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Bitwarden’s last update made the iOS categorically worse and impacted the Pin unlock functionality on Linus desktop. Guess I’m migrating to Proton’s offering along with the rest of their suite. Hope they don’t go down the enshittification rabbit hole anytime soon.

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The way i understand it, this stops maintenance for Syncthing, but Syncthing-fork in fdroid will continue its development and support as usual. Both show if you do a Syncthing search in fdroid. The fork is more up to date with features.

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Syncthing-fork on fdroid.

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This is one of the many things I use Syncthing for.

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4 points

Is webDAV not good enough for that? I use keepass via webDAV feature of the nextcloud (I know some think it is bloated) but I guess there are other lightweight webDAV solutions…

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I’ve used both. NC android app doesn’t sync and one needs to host the entire platform. When using generic webDAV one still needs a dedicated sync solution.

I self host NC and still prefer SyncThing for keeping my KeePass database updated and fresh across devices.

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I see, my app that I use for keepass has integrated webDAV sync where I can point it to a keepass file on the webDAV server (strongbox iOS) I just thought android keepass apps should have such feature as well.

The iOS app of NC is slow as well, and not good enough for using to sync keepass files, but the Linux app seems to be good enough.

And yea, just learned, that sync thing apparently works without a server but all P2P? That is 100% killer feature 😃👌🏻

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