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Gattaca is here now.

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Well, in the same way that Mars colonies are here now. Techbros with more money than sense throwing it at things with futuristic aesthetics doesn’t make them real.

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Huh? It’s already here in use today… They can already test an embryo for generic defects.

It is still in it’s infancy, but the technology is here. Where decode more of human DNA every day

Actual intelligence testing may not ever be possible. But in general this is going to happen.

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Testing for genetic defects is very different from the Gattaca-premise of most everything about a person being genetically deterministic, with society ordered around that notion. My point was that such a setting is likely inherently impossible, since “heritability” doesn’t work like that; the most techbros can do is LARP at it, which, granted, can be very dangerous on its own – the fact that race is a social construct doesn’t preclude racism and so on. But there’s no need to get frightened by science fiction when science facts tell a different story.

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I actually read a Red Dwarf fanfic about this once where Rimmer’s parents had paid for embryo selection to make sure all their kids had high IQs and good genes because they wanted to make sure they all got into the Space Corps

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Good luck having an embryo pass an iq test. Most of them can’t even read.

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Legitimately though, it’s a nonsensical metric to screen on.

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The thing with IVF is that it’s already incredibly weirdly eugenicist.

Like, read some of the parameters they’d screen you for if you wanted to donate sperm. You get bonus points for having a PhD? I’m sorry? You’re looking for a better-educated sperm?

And when you apply for IVF and choose a donor you get their education and job. “I want my cum to be a pilot!” The fuck.

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IVF isn’t required if fertility concerns or frozen eggs aren’t involved, they can give you the home game.

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A fertility doctor here in Sweden took sperm from men who were undergoing investigations for infertiliy and used it as donor sperm.

Imagine their surprise when decades later they found out they had kids.

Not sure why he chose those particular samples, maybe all he had available.

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Lamarckian eugenics!

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I think it’s understandable. Intelligence is partly hereditary and people want clever children. Education and job can give you at least an overall idea of the person you’re having a child with. It’s kind of weird anyway to have a child with someone random, isn’t it?

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It’s kind of weird anyway to have a child with someone random, isn’t it?

In my mind “being inseminated by” is like 1% of “having a child with”, if that. It’s probably the least consequential thing your father may do in your overall upbringing.

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@V0ldek @angrystego

That doesn’t really apply to a guy you only know as Dewar number 27, does it? Raising a child with that person isn’t in the cards except by very unlikely coincidence.

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I think for many women “being inseminated by” IS a big thing.

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