I’ve just been reading about how in the future, AI will allow us to speak with animals, and people will be able to communicate telepathically and live in their own VR worlds. (etc., etc.)
Man, this isn’t a world I want to live in. I’m so tired of the constant paradigm shifting that you have to put your brain through with each innovation. I wish technology just stayed frozen in the 1980s – there would be so much less uncertainty in my life and I could just focus on being a human.
Innovation keeps being forced on you and I just feel tired. >!And I’m only just in my 20s!< Is this ok? Is this valid? When resisting it is a loser’s game…
I don’t think it’s weird to feel exhausted by the pace of innovation, especially when the innovation has nebulous value.
I felt this way with the wave of “smart house” stuff. I’m a software engineer, I spend all day programming and debugging stuff. I do NOT want to spend 1 fucking second of my precious finite life debugging a fucking light bulb. Not one. Oh I can say “Alexa, red alert” and all my lightbulbs turn red, fucking fuck you. I don’t want my refrigerator connected to the internet, I don’t want my toaster monitoring my speech patterns to serve me ads and customize my toasting experience.
To every shitbag manager out there tying to shove this garbage down our throats, fuck off and die. And you might think “you don’t like a smart (whatever) then don’t buy one.” Fuck you too, over time I fucking can’t. Try to buy a tv that isn’t a fucking smart tv, you just fucking can’t anymore. And slowly but surely everything you use turns into some shitty piece of fuck.
The good news is that AI is probably a bubble. We’ve fed the sum total of the internet into our LLMs and we’ve gotten pretty convincing liars that are sometimes right. We are running out of data and 99 out of 100 uses of AI don’t make sense.
I’ve been in the startup scene for my entire adult career and if you talk to people that try to jam AI into their products to make investors happy you’ll hear very similar things every time. It was incredibly expensive, no one used it, and no one liked it.
There are some use cases for AI, but not nearly as much as what’s getting thrown at the wall. AI has been through many winters where progress stalls, the hype dies out, and AI winter begins.
Final thought, you don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. People are enamored with using AI to make false memories (sorry, there comes a point where you’ve touched up a photo so much it isn’t reality anymore), destroying their ability to use their brains for critical thinking, art, writing, reading. You don’t have to. Those people might deeply regret not having a single real picture of their child. Maybe the clouds made the photo look bad, but now you can’t remember laughing as you ran through the rain.
Our lives do not need to be curated and polished into some technicolor madness. Do what you want and in 20 years people will ask you “how are you so interesting and fulfilled” as they shovel AI garbage into their maw. I see a future that is similar to what happened to social media (I know, I’m using social media right now, we are all hypocrites). People working everyday to present some faux reality to others, jealous of everyone else’s faux realty, unhappy and unable to go 5 god damn minutes without a dopamine hit.
The other day I had to wait for something, I sat and looked out the window at the beautiful trees rustling gently in the wind. I took in the glory of the world around me, I sat in peace and let my mind wander. These are skills too few enjoy these days because they let the future happen to them.
You are in charge of your life.
I don’t want my refrigerator connected to the internet
Yep
Try to buy a tv that isn’t a fucking smart tv, you just fucking can’t anymore.
This is what I’m on about, resisting is a loser’s game, even if you try it gets too hard :-(
what’s getting thrown at the wall.
Ah, well noticed. Yeah I guess a lot of the smart toasters etc is just the industry throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks. You just reminded me how quickly 3D TVs disappeared after appearing.
Our lives do not need to be curated and polished into some technicolor madness.
Tell that to society 😩
But yes, we are definitely on the same page.
So much anger, so much vulgarity. This is exactly how I describe each of these things. It’s fucking maddening. Add in resentment for another fucking app that, surprise, is a mediocre service disguising more marketing collection. But I’m the crazy one because I don’t want to just let it happen
Are you mad about the technology or the underlying reasons it was born of? Honestly most people’s anger towards tech isn’t about the tech itself, but what it’s really used for
For example, the smart fridge, on paper most people would find it a fantastic idea. But then the user-hostile features set in. An internal camera could helpfully analyze everything in your fridge and put together an ez shopping list, but then in reality we kinda get that because it was designed around things like selling data collection and ADs and then designed to break in a year or 2 and take out half the fridge along with it because they want to make more money off you every 2 years
Now take the smart fridge in a world with strong privacy and consumer protection laws (and maybe even a capitalism free world) and it would be totally different, not only would you get cool things designed properly with heart and soul, but it’ll also last a long time. Modern tech doesn’t have to be as fragile as it is, NASAs space probes and rovers and satellites prove time and time again that “High Tech” can last with proper design and manufacturing. In the depths of space their shit is routinely lasting their original mission lengths. In space, in the top 10 most hostile places we know.
The thing many people don’t even need their fridge to be smart in the first place
Who are you to dictate who needs what? I definitely “need” a smart fridge from my example because I always forget to make a list before I go to the grocery store. It would save me so much time and money.
You honestly sound like the old fucks of ancient times past who always bitched about new “tech”:
- Damn smartphones, ruining society
- Damn internet, ruining society
- Damn personal computers, ruining society
- Damn video games, ruining society
- Damn television, ruining society
- Damn comic books, ruining society
- Damn rock and roll music, ruining society
- Damn jazz music, ruining society
- Damn movies, ruining society
- Damn automobiles, ruining society
- Damn telephones, ruining society
- Damn electricity, ruining society
- Damn novels, ruining society
- Damn newspapers, ruining society
- Damn printing press, ruining society
- Damn written language, ruining society
- Damn iron tools, ruining society
- Damn bronze weapons, ruining society
- Damn agriculture, ruining society
- Damn fire, ruining society
Nothing is stopping you from running away into the mountains to life a tech free life
ha, none of that will exist in your lifetime. i think youll be ok. is it that hard to just ignore the stuff youre not interested in?
Good luck ignoring social media nowadays. Whether you use them or not, you live in a society that does use them and you are impacted by its consequences.
And good luck trying to buy a new television that isn’t “smart”. Even cars are getting like that.
haahha ive been runnin BBs’s since the early 90s, and currently running a fully federating fediverse implementation of mbin. im not scared of running social media stuff. doesnt mean i cant ignore garbage tech like any VR.
and i only buy retail displays that dont include an onboard OS. they cost more, but theyre always worth it.
cars? my 1980 toyota celica aint goin nowhere. i can rebuild the 20r in my sleep.
i hate some of the new tech, but im also not afraid to completely work around it. you do you though
That’s the problem. Even if you want to be a Luddite, you have to do all the work for that yourself, because the entirety of society will be trying to pull you in the other direction :-/
Say you want the only computer you use to be an 80s computer: you can’t, because everything is online now. And society has since removed the adaptations that it had back then to an computer- and internet-less world.
Maybe it’s aggravated by the fact that I do programming and the industry standard libraries constantly keep evolving each year. You’re stuck perpetually playing catch-up.
yeah, im a full stack guy and im old and it sucks constantly having to learn for the job, but ya know it hasnt really changed all that much in the last 30 years. gen AI doesnt exist so its ‘revolution’ certainly isnt going to be pronounced before im retired.
im certainly not afraid of some predictive generation as its nothing knew, its just [much] better than it was.
you led with speaking with animals and virtual reality but that boiled down pretty quick didnt it?
I fully agree. As a 43 year old, who used to be an “early adopter” I’ve found that I don’t fucking need it. I’m fine with retro games. I’m fine with talking on the phone instead of video conferences. I don’t need “social media”.
On the other hand, I really like that my car doesn’t pollute. I really like that I can power my house from the sunlight that normally just hits my roof and is absorbed. I really like that I can work from home.
There are tradeoffs. For me, what works, is just not giving a fuck. But in like, a content/nice way, instead of a nihilistic/depressed way. If you know what I mean?
But being a Luddite does have its appeal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
Chevy Bolt. It hasn’t polluted since I bought it.
Yes, I am aware that electricity production often comes from fossil fuels. Yes, I’m aware of the pollution that stems from mining and manufacturing. You’re right that a train would be more efficient. Yes, you’re right that I’m a bad person who should know better. What else ya got?
People getting old in this thread. Next thing you know, you’ll be yelling at kids on your front lawn. 😁
Did I become an old man that yells at clouds?
I guess that makes sense. Also, what sets the solar panels aside is that they don’t intrude into your modus operandi, like eg. always-on employer expectations (possible thanks to the internet) might.
I’m fine with talking on the phone instead of video conferences.
You will be surprised how many young people prefer voice-only over video. And how many people hate voice messages.
I do find that the audio quality is much higher over the web than over the phone line. I wish everything were voip.
We all reach that point in life. I kind of admire and also pity those who don’t.
Like, the Richard Bransons who are skydiving and water skiing with supermodels at 65 are just nuts. The Leo Laporte’s who stay on top of every little detailed change to every piece of tech are nuts. It’s cool that they have that enthusiasm, I guess. But it’s just not that important to me anymore.
We may have some differences, while close to the same age, I am extremely outdoors and active, constantly building something tech (not bleeding edge) or non-tech, and completely fill my time or I get ansy. So in that way I’m more like the Branson’s but overall my mentality towards “not caring” matches yours to a tee.
The skill of being able to identify what’s important in the moment and recognizing “this won’t matter in 6 months” is a learned talent I wish I could give others. I sometimes feel like it may dampen my excitement for things, being the inverse, but so far that has never really been deterrent for me…
Animals use a lot of body language. So, if AI could lift your tail to “speak” cat, i would finally get impressed by AI.
That’s the points of game I played. Humanity left all progress to an advance AI but it kept holding back technologically because humanity couldn’t keep up with the endless break throughs. Which led to the rouge AIs that hacked into it got some really advance gear.
