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Samsung couldn’t do it with tizen and now Huawei thinks they’re better? It’ll be another epic failure.

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Tizen was written from scratch. From what I understand HarmonyOS is Android… at least it was forked from Android. oh shit, I talked before reading… sorry for that! :-D

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But they have the benefit of Chinese state support and a massive captive market (with revanchist, imperialist tendencies).

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Exactly. The path for success is clear as there’s clear need and public investment to back it up.

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In China is easy. Once you give some millions to tencent/Alibaba/Baidu/bytedance (or having the government force them to do so) for porting their apps, it’s all a Chinese citizen needs.

There are many apps that are actually “mini apps” (a WebView inside tencent WeChat)

When you enter China you need to register with the customs using said “mini app” in WeChat

90% of users exclusively use WeChat, alipay, Baidu, taobao, amaps, douyin (TikTok), xiaohongshu.

Maybe some could find useful to also have Weibo and pinduoduo (temu malware) but the “must have” apps are really a handful, it’s not like in the west

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To be honest, they didn’t want to but they were banned from google and lost play services so they might drop android altogether

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This has nothing to do with Google Play services. Replacing the google services with another proprietary crap would be nothing (and cost relatively nothing) compared to building an entire operating system almost from scratch. This is a dick measuring contest. Although the chinese dick is shiny and impressive in this regard so far.

Plus, even google is playing with the idea of dropping linux, with the Fuchsia project.

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Will be interesting to see if openharmony gets updated to be based on this.

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Wow this is indeed a completely new OS - kernel, user space and all. I thought they’d use Linux and Qt but no.

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Da faq?

How are they porting apps onto a new kernel?

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Custom java machine probably

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steam proton route lol

i guess hardware is good enough where emulation layer is not longer seen a hindrance.

it is easier to just write one layer then re write 20 years of software.

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Apps typically don’t interact with the kernel. They interact with a C library like glibc, bionic or musl. So long as the kernel has a POSIX interface you should be able to compile the same app on different kernels. We do this with apps that run on Linux, BSD and QNX for example.

As for Android apps, you could extend that to running the Android runtime on top of different kernels. We did that with the Android runtime on QNX for BlackBerry 10 and we did it in a way that didn’t even require recompilation. That said Wiki says they don’t support Android apps. So if you meant Android apps they simply don’t.

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That’s a nice number, but well short of the millions of apps found on the Google Play Store and Apple’s App Store.

Millions of apps on these stores are also complete garbage

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I afraid not too soon there will be WhatsApp repackage version with backdoors included.

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Whatsapp it’s blocked countrywide so it’s not going to be a problem (although I found out that some cell stations nearby tourist points aren’t blocking that)

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