Ford lays off 600 workers at plant targeted by UAW strike::Ford is laying off workers while the UAW is striking against Ford, GM, and Stellantis. This is getting complicated.

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Making cars in the US makes no sense. The cost of living is too high. It’s much easier to make them in Mexico and ship them.

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-18 points

Bingo

Watch ford agree to terms and then just close the plants afterwards once they have setup new ones elsewhere

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Automobile manufacturing plants aren’t pop up apple stores

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That makes sense for a techbro or a financebro, but turning the blue collar labour force into a horde of minimum wage slaves serving coffee and delivering UPS packages isn’t exactly the future that those people want.

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I doubt their wants will have a say in this matter.

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-41 points

Don’t worry

They booing you but your right.

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23 points

Are you immune to being stabbed by pitchforks?

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Let them eat cake

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If they want their new EVs to be eligible federal tax credit, the cars need to undergo final assembly in the US. Not to mention we just went through a pandemic that showed us the weaknesses of shipping all our manufacturing to third world countries.

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your weakness, not mine

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36 points

Where do you live? The moon?

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7 points

You’d have a point, if it weren’t for the fact that you’re targeting the wrong issues.

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Yeah, we shouldn’t make anything expensive in the US. We should make them abroad and then the unemployed hordes will buy those goods!

Your statement is too stupid to be anything but a troll.

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non-Americans can buy stuff too. Not everything gets made for America.

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81 points

I’ll never buy a ford then.

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You shouldn’t anyway. Their vehicles are terrible.

I had a 2003 Ranger that was in tip top shape. I was the only owner and regularly took it in for oil changes and maintenance. Sitting at a stop sign one night on my way home from work and the engine starts knocking out of the blue. Piston fucked and the engine is completely shot. That was like 1-2 months after a full tune up.

My mom had a Ford Focus. As soon as it was out of warranty, everything on that car went south. The electronics, the transmission, everything. That car was a massive piece of shit.

tl;dr - Ford fucking sucks.

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Anecdotal

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FORD: Fix Often Repair Daily

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Found On Road Dead

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Fix It Again Tony!

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LOTUS: Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious

  • Jeremy Clarkson (or whatever writer for the show wrote that line)
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First on race day

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38 points

That kind of stuff happens with all brands though… Heck, we would sometimes have brand new cars needing an engine replacement at the dealership I worked at back in the day (Nissan around 2009).

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I have had a couple of Fords over the years and never experienced anything beyond usual wear and tear. My brother has been driving Focuses for nearly 2 decades now and swears by them.

Not defending ford as a company here, but just sharing my own anecdotes.

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My ranger did almost the exact same thing, ended up being totaled. Part of me wants another one but I don’t like the new style and the used old rangers are so expensive, especially considering the fact that my first one just up and died lol

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I’ve heard stories like that from most car brands. Not saying you are the exception, I’m saying the exception is a reliable car that doesn’t suck for almost anyone, like a 90s-00s Toyota

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Interestingly, the German mandated car inspections are a good source for reliability, and Fords are almost always in the top few spots in terms of “severe faults found on the car”, and it’s not like other foreign, or even American cars have this problem at the inspections… mainly Fords

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I’m thinking of the mid-2000s Exploder that had a widely-known transmission fault that would put the tranny into a permanent fault mode where the transmission light would flash and the gearing was noisy/weird. Ford’s response was “out of warranty, sorry not sorry”. Drove it nearly 100k miles like that. EDIT: forgot about the Focus that wrapped its hood around my windshield when I was in the left lane of a highway going 80 mph.

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Counterpoint: drove a 92 Ford ranger into the fucking ground. That truck was an absolute soldier. I took shit care of it, my neighbor cut my fuel line and I held it together with a clamp and a sock, I got in 4 accidents in it.

Absolute beast of a vehicle.

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3 points

My '96 Ranger is at a quarter million miles and still going.

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5 points

The old ones were tanks! I was bummed when mine went south.

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The only thing that stopped my 92 Ranger was another vehicle hitting it at high speed, otherwise it’d still be choochin up the mountains today. Got an Edge and once again only real problems are impact based from a crash but it goes everywhere

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Weird. My 2009 Ranger with 160k miles still pulls its 31 inch tires at over 90mph to the beach just fine. My old Focist ST took a hell of a beating cause I drove it like it was stolen and it was fine too.

But because you must be right. All ford’s suck.

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Not defending Ford here. But we need to be supporting union workers by choosing union made products and services. Those that are saying they won’t buy a Ford now, that’s your choice, but I hope you’re doing your research and at least considering other automobiles that are union instead. Here is a 2023 list of all the UAW built vehicles: https://uaw.org/solidarity_magazine/2023-uaw-union-built-vehicle-guide/amp/

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Is it bad that I would rather buy a vehicle from the 90’s because it doesn’t have all this bs in it that 1. makes it harder to repair myself and 2. Just feels weird to drive (mainly talking the fly by wire style that modern cars are using, I want to feel the feedback on my gas pedal).

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No, it’s definitely not bad to think that.

(Source: I own four cars made in the '90s, for much the same reason.)

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No, I like old cars too for the same reasons

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Good point

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Yeah I wanted a Chevy bolt because that’s the union made electric compact. I won’t buy a struck vehicle but I’ll never buy a non union new vehicle if I can help it. Purchasing non union products is the same as purchasing products from companies retaliating against a union, the only difference is the retaliators haven’t won yet.

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8 points

Poking the UAW with a stick may not work the way Ford thinks it will.

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Fuck these fat cats! Take’em for all they’re worth UAW!

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