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The original was posted on /r/onguardforthee by /u/SAJewers on 2024-10-24 21:32:00+00:00.
This is why Lock-Out Tag-Out (LOTO) is so important.
Protects yourself protect others. Never go into or work on a machine unless it cannot be energized or stops installed.
This happens alot in manufacturing esp when people get lazy and don’t follow procedures or management doesnt enforce/train/make it possible.
And taking bolt cutters to a lockout lock without a thorough investigation of where the owner of said lock is should be treated as either attempted murder or murder, depending on the outcome.
Edit: not necessarily applicable to this particular story, but hearing about it being done in some cases pisses me off.
If you cut a lock and someone gets hurt or killed there is jail time and employers are aware of this. The bigger issue is that so many employees are either not trained or just do not lock out when they should. My personal lock is so worn that it looks like beach glass but the majority I see “in use” are basically new in box condition.
Every detail I read makes this feel more and more like she was murdered. Suspicious as fuck.
Something isn’t adding up here. The first article I read about this said that there were employees nearby who saw her but were unable to open the door. If I see someone being literally cooked, I’m going to grab the closest metal object and smash the fuck out of the door. I would imagine most people would have the same reaction. Even if it’s a metal door, 4 or 5 people could almost certainly pry it open.
Or, you know, turn it off? There must have been an emergency kill switch on that thing
Unless the oven auto starts on close I don’t see how this could have happened with the victim alone. I think ours would idle when closed but they would be already on (warm enough to alert/stop someone walking inside). Like it’d have to be a shit design if an employee could just close themselves inside one and the oven starts some sort of program or turns on due to a schedule. Very interested to hear what the investigation turns up. Feels very much like someone might be up for manslaughter/ neg homicide.
Ex: She was inside cleaning and an employee wearing ANC headphones closed it and hit it the on. Or someone closing her in there as a “prank” not realising the danger.
I did a brief stint working in a bakery. If it’s anything like those oven there’s only a small glass window to see inside. Though I don’t recall them locking, I imagine they would otherwise employees would get blasted with hundred degree heat. They also seem like prying them open would be incredibly difficult. I don’t know how they aren’t like walk ins with an emergency release. I agree still something doesn’t add up.
The emergency release on walk-in freezers isn’t great either.
It can ice up or jam, the handle can be bent, and because the door opens outward all it takes is one poorly placed pallet and you can be trapped.
When I worked with one my cell phone didn’t work inside either.
I haven’t worked in many places with a walk in freezer, but the several I have all had alarms in them. Not automatic, but if the door was stuck there was a big red button next to it that would set off a siren and flashing light outside.
I don’t know how they aren’t like walk ins with an emergency release.
I can’t imagine it would pass OH&S muster to not have an internal release on a walk in oven. I suspect poorly maintained equipment where the release was broken. Something similar happened to an Arby’s manager last year.
I want to know how she died. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it.
Likely asphyxiation, and not the pleasant, “drift off on a carbon monoxide high” kind of asphyxiation. The “oh God, my lungs are melting and I can’t breathe” kind of asphyxiation. The only hope is that it got hot fast enough that her brain melted before her lungs, so she didn’t have time to understand the pain. All in all, it’s not a good way to go.
Yeah, the only way someone is dying in a furnace before feeling pain is if you’re dealing with molten-metal-type temperatures. Not a bakery oven. I’m sure this poor woman experienced excruciating pain for far too long.
