Question for something I’m writing: would it be possible for Substack to make substack Notes (its twitter like feature within the Substack app) part of the fediverse?
I’m wondering if this is something that’s technically possible or not and I don’t know enough about how the fediverse operates to know if it would be feasible. #fediverse
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social Sure, they just need to implement #ActivityPub, the underlying protocol of the fediverse the way Wordpress, Peertube and others did.
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social those two can provide knowledge and contacts: @ErikUden@mastodon.de @leyrer@chaos.social
@Boss @taylorlorenz @ErikUden
Substack is a platform I personally do neither recommend nor support.
See https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/11/substack-extremism-nazi-white-supremacy-newsletters/676156/
@leyrer @Boss @ErikUden I found this ultimately not very compelling. A handful of problematic newsletters, most of whom never published, with a collective 27 followers between them is not any sort of widespread issue compared to other platforms. Also Ghost’s biggest publisher is a far right, many would say Neo nazi, blog (which was even promoted on their website).
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social Yeah, I don’t get the Substack “hate” either beyond the general criticism of being a centralized (which has the benefit of actually paying independent writers, though). The only people I follow on Substack are you, Michael Moore, and a few other I’d call progressives. So, keep using the platform as long as it suits you ^ ^
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @Boss@troet.cafe @ErikUden@mastodon.de I understand that the USA has a different understand if “free speech” than eg. Austria, where I come from. We have laws against Nazi logos and Nazi speech for historical reasons (look up WW2).
Furthermore, as a member of the CCC, I fully agree with the club’s stance against right-extremist ideology.
https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2005/unvereinbarkeitserklaerung
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@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social probably, but as they’re a nazi-accepting platform, they’d probably get defederated by a whole lot of servers rather fast, so there might not be much of a point.
@jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social Ghost also accepts nazis, I realize they’re not part of the fediverse but I struggle to find a single publishing tool that doesn’t allow allow reprehensible people to publish.
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social @jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social check out buttondown. a follower kindly provided this link to their ToS when I asked: https://mastodon.social/@jandi/113376268019802243
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social do they? I hadn’t seen anything about that yet.
@jvnknvlgl@mastodon.social they do! They have less moderation than Substack but it was never a viral headline. I’m not defending it or saying “well this platform is also bad so it’s ok for Substack to do xyz” just saying it’s a broader systemic issue with these email newsletter platforms and publishing tools that don’t want to get into the content moderation business
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social feels funny to respond very narrowly here but: Ghost is currently adding ActivityPub support so is kind of prototyping being part of the fediverse https://activitypub.ghost.org/
@taylorlorenz @jvnknvlgl there will of course be some nuances with Ghost being an open source product, but as far as I can tell, this claim is at least misleading as far a it goes for their hosted product.
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social Definitely possible, but would require substantial engineering investment, so not that cheap.
@taylorlorenz@mastodon.social totally possible yes.
