usians are the most propagandized people on earth

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Basically anything related to Healthcare just annoys me to no end because the people who argue Healthcare use strawman en masse (mainly about part time / low wage workers) instead of actually debating real issues that affect employees like corporate culture forcing HSAs onto people who have no need for them to meet quotas (this might be tinfoil) or removing good HMO/PPO offerings for worse plans to cut costs on the employer.

“Poor people are just straw men. The real healthcare issues are with the middle class white collar bullshit job workers and PMCs.”

Beyond parody.

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I hate when people act as improving the healthcare system is a “complex issue”, when pretty much every developed nation aside from the US manages to do better. It’s not even good from a “fiscally conservative” standpoint; the US has by far the highest healthcare expenditure per capita in terms of government spending alone. Yet even the (relatively) progressive politicians have to talk about additional taxes on the rich to “justify” universal healthcare or else they’ll be treated as “naive fools who think money grows on trees”.

Why do we need to “debate real issues” when it’s plainly obvious that the American healthcare system is objectively worse than even other capitalist nations (the wealthy ones anyways) just from a basic observation? Even high-income PMC types would benefit from not having to deal with insurance and whatever. Though it sucks that in a lot of places that do have universal healthcare, politicians are actively sabotaging it to justify privatization. Comes to show that the “free market” can only “prove” it’s superiority through deception.

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legitimately monstrous

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THEY HAVE AGENCY! IT’S BEING TAKEN AWAY BY FOREIGN POWERS! PINOCHET FORCED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INTO A STADIUM AND IMPRISONED/MURDERED THEM! HIM AND THATCHER WERE PRACTICALLY BEST FRIENDS! WE LITERALLY HAVE AUDIO PROOF OF VICTORIA NULAND CHOOSING UKRAINE’S PRIME MINISTER! WHAT THE FUCK!?

this is literally “people can’t do bad things, it’s against the law” levels of intellectual discussion. your country being overtaken by heavily armed foreign powers like the USA? just use your agency and say “no!”

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WE LITERALLY HAVE AUDIO PROOF OF VICTORIA NULAND CHOOSING UKRAINE’S PRIME MINISTER!

Umm actually, she was just playing Fantasy Football but for Ukrainian politics.

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It’s really impressive how good she is at Fantasy Politics, because all of her picks made it in! Good on her for winning the office pool.

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Rob a neolib at gunpoint and tell them it’s their fault for not doing anything because they had agency

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look arr neoliberal flairs and DO NOT smile challenge (i failed)

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I like that the US defending the government of Yemen is US imperialism, and the US being against the government of Syria is US imperialism.

“If the US projecting power halfway around the world to protect a government they like is bad, then how is the US projecting power halfway around the world to defeat a government they don’t like also bad?”

The USA exploits the third world by trade and Cuba/Venezuela by not trading with them.

Because Cuba and Venezuela refuse to be exploited, so they must be punished.

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I like that the

I like it that

it’s ironic that

it’s funny that

it’s interesting that

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Imagine having a different worldview than me.

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It like it that it’s funny that it’s ironic that different worldviews exist. I’m sorry, I hate to say it, but who hurt them?

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My favorite is IMF/World Bank who are depicted as shady boggiemen that keep the world poor for America’s capitalist interests.

Yeah they are wrong! The IMF are actually puppets of Japan as Japan donates the most to them. They are secretly trying to make imperial Japan again but through investing in developing nations! Truly evil

I refuse to go through the mental anguish of interacting with these people, but

  1. I don’t think the Japan thing is even true, and
  2. This is a child’s understanding of the function of the IMF.
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Yeah. The World Bank is less evil than it used to be, but only because they realise letting things improve slightly allows them to increase extraction, and also because China became a direct competitor with better rates and more flexible conditions, since they don’t even want the money.

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My favorite is

I like it that

it’s ironic that

it’s funny that

it’s interesting that

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Empirical

Demonstrably

Patently

Full stop

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Investing is an insidious word when said by a neoliberal. It does a lot of heavy lifting for them.

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When it comes to debating leftists as a former leftists I like to ask them if they would choose a crony neo-feudalist system or liberal democracy on the march to socialism and eventually communism. Marx would say liberal democracy is preferable.

As someone who selects my ideologies out of a hat I present more serious people with a false dichotomy and make assumptions about what a philosopher I’ve never read would pick.

Why did I go there? I knew it would only make me sad

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choose a crony neo-feudalist system

no true capitalism – cRoNy CaPiTaLiSm

or liberal democracy on the march to socialism and eventually communism.

what the fuck. these people are a psyop.

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liberal democracy on the march to socialism

:rosa-shining:

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I think you might be right with this one tbh. “Former leftist” just reeks of fed energy.

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liberal democracy on the march to socialism and eventually communism

If someone asked them to name an example of that they’d probably say Scandinavia

:agony:

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“former leftist” is a funny way to say “liberal who hates minorities more openly than they used to.”

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Why did I go there? I knew it would only make me sad

Right there with you comrade, Reddit is self harm for me at this point

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as a former non-believer in Santa, I can tell you exactly how to nail the non-believers: ask them if they choose Santa going down a chimney or going through the front door but bypassing the alarm system is more believable. Watch them squirm trying to answer.

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