there’s no communities for my niche interests!!!

more like “i want a ready-made community where other people already putting effort into posting cool and intersting stuff, and all I want to do is sit on my ass and shower posts generously with “”“muh upvotes™””“”

180 points

As a man whose started 7 different communities I’d like to defend those people saying, if you don’t immediately get a good response it starts feeling like screaming into the void.

I started a meme community !aneurysmposting@sopuli.xyz and it immediately took off and is doing well. On the other hand other my worst community got 2-3 people making one or two comments after a month of 2 posts everyday.

Meme communities do well. Niche communities require lots of people finding it and being active.

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But even aneurysmposting, the most successful wouldn’t survive if I wasn’t regularly posting. Partially bc people just forget a community exists. I end up posting in the same 10-15 communities since I can’t think of relevant communities to post in; even if they exist very often.

I enjoy running aneurysmposting and !inmymind@lemmy.dbzer0.com since there only I can post and there is no pressure. It basically is like posting to local, but I have an archive if everything I post.

Similarly !shortstories@literature.cafe is another community I made and enjoy posting on, but my posts are like 50% of that instance and 80% of that community. But its a great community otherwise.

The other 4 have been different levels of disappointing.

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Hey fam, go to !fedigrow@lemm.ee and check out the weekly “How are you doing with your communities?” post if you haven’t already. It’s like a support group for people keeping niche communities alive.

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Hi my name is variants and I’m a niche community mod

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Oh yeah I gotta go do that sometime

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I feel you as I too struggled to keep small community afloat and alive. And it sometimes does feel like you are screaming in to the void. I was kinda fortunate in a sense that my community got atleast some trafficin votes/comments and that motivated me to stay and post.

My point is that it’s always better to try to do something (even if it fails) than just whine about it.

I also want to salute you (and people like you), we are all here in part because you take time of your day to find\make and post stuff. Even if in the moment it doesen’t get noticed or feels like it’s in vain, know that it is never for nothing - you’re making the hour\day or even week of 100s of people better

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Comments come in which keeps the motivation. The issue is if I’m busy for a week or month I come back to a dead community. (And I’m not gonna use a bot to keep regular activity, that idea grosses me out.)

But yeah I do think a lot more people could try and perhaps don’t go super niche, but try making a community for a genre or subgenre. Music will get more traction than folk music which will get more traction than Bob Dylan and yet you can post the same thing you want from the niche in the other 2.

PS. This is the kind of situation where you should link your community so people like me can join in.

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And still, the community I started ( !dontdeadopeninside@lemmy.ohaa.xyz ) somewhat exists alongside it. Although Im afraid you’ve won.

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Well you started later and used a reddit import as a template which people can be a little averse to. But the community is doing really well and you’ve taken good care of it. Keep it up mate!

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12 points

Absolutely this. I’ve started a few, and after being the only one to ever post on one of them, I have practically given up. It also burned me out of a hobby.

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2 points

The funny thing is, if you don’t fit into the culture (or even just disagree with moderation) people tell you to go start your own. Which is like telling you to go sit in a corner by yourself.

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Yeah that is very fair. However, you can say “I’m sitting in my own corner, with blackjack and hookers”

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6 points

Y=x^2 lmao

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The comments on that post genuinely made my day.

Ps. Not to complain but -x²

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2 points

Damnit

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124 points

This is kind of bullshit. On a big platform, like Reddit, where there are orders of magnitude more users, the likelihood is that there are a good number of people interested in whatever niche topic you want. That’s a draw for a lot of people. I left Reddit for Lemmy for good, but we’re just not up to that kind of user base.

And it’s not zero effort to get a community going and keep it active, especially with a small user base. It’s perfectly reasonable for someone to want a place that discusses their niche interest without wanting to be responsible for running that place. It doesn’t make them bad or lazy.

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Especially if you didn’t have a lot of spare time. With an active community you can just dip into discussions when you have the time. With a community you’re trying to establish yourself you absolutely have to provide a steady stream of content until it (hopefully) takes off.

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Right, exactly. And let’s not forget that a healthy percentage of all online communities is made of lurkers who don’t really want to post at all, but they enjoy reading stuff they’re interested in.

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Genuinely… why though? Why not post once a week rather than per day? Or per month? Who is counting? If people want to join then they will, if not then they won’t, but either way will one post per day for the last six months make any difference to their decision vs. one post per week?

I am no good at what I do. I try to enjoy it anyway.:-) Do with that what you will.

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You could always go one level up. Like instead of a crochet community and a knitting community you could have a yarn community that incorporates all types of weaving with yarn.

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For sure, though that really doesn’t solve the problem. If I’m really into sports-themed shot glasses, making a post in a community for drinking ware, or for sports merchandise, isn’t going to mean I get more content about sports shot glasses, and it doesn’t increase the number of people on the site who have something to say about them. On a platform with millions of users, there might be enough other people with the same interest to generate a critical mass of content.

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Yeah but everyone seems to be expecting Lemmy to just turn into the high point of Reddit. Reddit wasn’t built in a day and neither will Lemmy be built in a day.

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I think you clicked the wrong comment to reply to.

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I look at the nfl community here. It really only gets a handful of posts on Sunday and that’s it. It blows my mind that there isn’t more engagement

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8 points

I wonder if that’s related to a user base that skews heavily toward techies.

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Im sure youre right. My point is thats not even a niche topic. A quick Google estimates there are 21 million viewers PER GAME every week. There are literally hundreds of millions of fans of the nfl, but even a subject so popular can’t maintain a healthy community on lemmy, how are these niche topics supposed to stand a chance at survival?

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Like another user said, if Lemmy doesn’t have the numbers to support the niche communities you want, maybe you need to move one level up the niche.

Like maybe there isn’t enough NFL activity on Lemmy yet to keep the NFL community active… But could there be enough sports fans to keep a sports community active? Could you perhaps settle for sharing a space with NHL, MBL, and/or soccer fans in a community that sacrifices a little bit of specificity for broadness to encourage activity?

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2 points

“US sport” with hashtags for NFL, NHL, … could be a way.

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!football@lemmy.world is the same. I’m quite surprised too, but I guess the Lemmy demographics is just not into professional sports

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0 points

The epitome of the meme.

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The problem isn’t that they won’t create them, there’s insufficient biomass to populate them.

If I want to talk about a 5-year-old video game with myself, I’ll just open Notepad.

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As @Zombiepirate@lemmy.world said in a comment here, we can use general communities to find “biomass needed” to populate small communities

Although I can see the point you are making, and I agree to some extent. I still think it is better to try

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I totally agree, and I did try. It was just some kind of soul reposting things from Reddit and me.

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Feel free to drop a post on !oldgamers@lemmy.world if you want to talk old games.

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!patientgamers@sh.itjust.works has a larger population

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2 points

Just how much biomass does a subthread really need?

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Well, the sub in question had one person copying the articles from Reddit and me commenting on them. That was decidedly too few :)

Philosophically, I think you need enough engagement that there’s chat at least a few times a week in the group. Anything less than that and it’s closer to a search engine result than a community.

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79 points

“Why complain about lacking a community when you can create your own ghost town”

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33 points

Exactly

Someone has already created my niche community, and there are 2 people in it, and it hasn’t grown since I joined, and that makes the conversations in it boring af

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Which one is that?

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Edit: upon re-reading, i had misunderstood you.

There is no specific niche community I was talking about, I meant that any time I look for a niche interest (outside computers), it’s a ghost town. Especially if it’s for something local.

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Is there any way we could talk about the niche communities, and promote them all at one place. I know it’s already there but I don’t remember where, it’s clearly a broken system.

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A community dedicated to all the niche communities, I like this. A post a day highlighting various ones or where people can announce the ones they’ve created. This is a good idea to at least spread the word of their existence

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I did. There’s almost zero engagement. My most popular thread is a meta narrative about me being in there talking to myself. There were at least two other attempts that are even more inactive. Not enough of y’all are into synthesizers.

https://lemm.ee/c/synthesizers

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I’d never seen this community before. Subscribed!

I’m terrible at keyboards, but I do like to play with 'em.

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Welcome to the club!

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4 points

Same! On all those things

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We need better discoverable tools. I subscribed to the community

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Welcome!

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😄😁👋

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For curiosity, where did you advertise the community? In the “new communities”/“find a community” communities? In music-related communities? Or both?

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Hmm. I made no effort to advertise at all. I came during the Rexodus last year after the API kerfuffle. Initially, it seemed promising, and I didn’t think I’d need to, but activity died down quite quickly. I’ve never moderated a community before or anything like that. I certainly don’t want to it to become a full time job. I have enough of those.

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