73 points

I still can’t believe The Matrix is from '99. The themes and the effects hold up incredibly well, it feels far more modern.

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I strongly disagree, Matrix was very much a product of its time, if it had released a decade before or a decade after it would not have had the same impact.

In the 80s as a general rule people didn’t know of the internet nor were they very computer savvy.

In the late 00s cellphones started to be ubiquitous and people were using broadband almost exclusively.

So there was only a small period of time when people were familiar with the idea of telephone lines carrying data, which is a core concept of the movie (exiting the Matrix through your cellphone or laptop is a lot less cool and less prone to plot hooks).

Not to mention that the 90s were extremely gothic and grimdark about the future. I don’t think a movie that the base premise is in the future humans are enslaved to machines and hooked to a large simulation to keep them from realizing they’re slaves would work in any time period besides the 90s.

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It’s for sure a product of its time, but it really doesn’t feel like a 1999 movie. Around that time we had

  • Sixth sense
  • American beauty
  • Eyes wide shut
  • Being John Malkovich
  • Fight Club

Matrix has such a stark level of visual and thematic modernity compared to those. Maybe Fight Club comes near, but the other movies look like they’re from a different decade.

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Matrix is a “work sucks” movie the same way that “American Beauty”, “Fight Club”, and “Office Space” was. It is a very 1999 movie.

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There was also that short sliver of the late 90s through early 2000s where the slick black trenchcoat and sunglasses look was considered unironically cool.

The Matrix, Blade, Underworld, and Equilibrium all being in this era. Any movie where characters dress like this to be cool and it isn’t treated with at least a wink to the audience probably either came from this time or is a sequel to something from this time.

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5 points

That look become uncool 2-seconds after the Columbine shooting.

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Agreed with all that, but still, don’t forget how mind blowing it was in 1999. One of the only movies I ever saw twice in the theaters, two nights in a row even.

Even the trailers were wild. First time we saw one in the theater my gf and I looked at each other like, “What the fuck was that all about?!”

The Matrix was to science fiction in 1999 about what Star Wars was in 1977, so far ahead of the game it was like nothing before it.

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It was from the era when choreography mattered. You could roll through an entire fight scene and see what every punch was supposed to be doing. You had some situational awareness where everyone was.

Now we keep getting that stupid crap where they’re changing the scene every punch, with so many scenes per second that you can’t follow through, actually just like the fight scenes and matrix 4.

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You’re not gonna believe this but there were movies that are even older.

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14 points

Surely not?

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69 points

Day After Tomorrow was about two days before its time

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Actually, I believe you’ll find, if you refer to the title, that it is a movie about two days after its time

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1 point

¿Por qué no los dos? (a phrase that itself is both of the 2010s and also timeless)

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Metropolis might be the ultimate “ahead of its time” movie. It’s nearly 100 years old and still looks mind-blowing.

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24 points

When I heard about megalopolis I thought Coppola was remaking this movie

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Holy crap yes, I watched it a few years back and couldn’t belive not only how good it looked but how good it was in general.

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49 points

Citizen Kane.

Yes it is circle jerked hard by film lovers… For good reason.

This is what I might consider the first movie shot in what would be recognized as a modern movie format.

It is told non sequentially, the composition of shots is absolutely incredible.

It’s a movie shot in 1941 that looks nothing like the other movies of the time. Literally decades ahead of its time. It looks like it could have been shot a few months ago as a period piece.

There’s good reason for it being one of the most acclaimed movies of all time.

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It’s hard to overstate how important the film is to cinema. It pretty much established what the modern movie is.

That said, based strictly off of entertainment value. IMO it is just absolutely terrible.

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That’s interesting. I’m not a film guy at all, and it certainly never occurred to me that it pioneered some of the key stuff in modern movies (although that totally makes sense). But I remember enjoying it! The pacing felt quite good, there were some mysteries and character drama. Not a top movie for me personally, but pretty watchable for a B&W movie.

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While filming Citizen Kane, director and star Orson Welles likened making a movie to playing with a toy train set, and that playful inventive spirit shines all throughout the movie.

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Clue is an interesting study. It’s a movie set in the 50’s, made in the 80’s, and it bombed in theaters in the 80’s, but the television cut became popular in the 90’s and 00’s. It definitely is a product of the 80’s, I don’t think they would have made it in 1995, but that’s when it landed.

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One of my favorites

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