Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

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If she didn’t her Votes wouldn’t go to Harris lol. If people don’t want to Vote Dem they aren’t going vote Dem. Harris has had all the time in the world to put effort into courting voters the same way she did Republicans. I plan on voting Third Party only for future elections. I want nothing to do with people who excuse genocide and link up with Dick Cheney.

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Trump thanks you for your vote, and I hope that you are among the first groups they round up.

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Ask Dick Cheney to tell Harris to changer her Border Policy and stop genocide and I’ll vote for her next time. :) I don’t care you subservient peon. I’m not standing with Dick Cheney or Liberals anymore. You don’t hate Republicans enough. You’re literally fine with right-wing policy if a (D) is doing it.

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Yummy yummy boot leather. You love it. Now kissy kissy for your new god king!

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So you want someone to be “rounded up” because of how they are exercising their right to vote, but you aren’t using that same time and energy to push your candidate to change positions to get said vote? This is the embodiment of blue maga lol

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Someone’s sarcasm detector is broken.

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I hope that you are among the first groups they round up.

Most empathetic liberal.

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Your heart is in the right place. I’m right there with you, but I voted Harris because the system doesn’t count my heart being in the right place, the two party system doesn’t acknowledge me. My vote won’t matter much anyways, since Seattle is going blue no matter what. But blowing up the popular vote to make it clear Americans don’t want trump meant more than a lost third party vote. But next time, as long as it’s not Maga on the ballot, I don’t want anything to do with big Dem.

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dnc not getting enough popular votes is still something that will have impact. else they will just say that we have voted for genocide and endless coroprate greed

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The narrative will get twisted for anyone’s advantage if the media continues to be influenced by political parties.

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a post I made earlier:

If Harris loses California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, Hawaii, Vermont, DC, or Maine-1 because of vote-splitting by Stein, it will be Harris’s fault. If you’re voting in these states, you might as well vote your heart.

https://lemmy.world/post/21147692

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The Green party isn’t a party worth anyone’s heart. It’s all a big grift funded by conservatives that only puts any effort into the scammy presidential run. I don’t want more of that, I want progressives that challenge moderate Democrats in safe seats to give people a real option to move left.

I’m in Hawaii, and we’re solid blue but last election the Greens had a whole of 2 candidates across the entire state. Some random party I’d never heard of had more candidates on the ballot. My state rep won with something like 2000 votes, no Green challenger in sight. If the Greens were a real party they’d jump on that opportunity. A little sweat and door knocking can pull off 2000 votes. Hell, we have Ed fucking Case in Congress. I’d kill to vote against him, but my only other option is a MAGA conspiracy theorist.

The GPUSA isn’t a real party.

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See this is your issue assuming we give a shit about jill or the green party. 😂

We dont. it was just a convenient box to tick because harris’ campaign tried to remove her from the ballot, and fed their bullhorns the line about splitting the ticket. The vote would still have been cast for a different third party candidate unless Harris’ position was corrected. It wasnt so the box gets ticked away.

Learn to properly focus your political energy: its much easier to get harris to flip than getting a million voters who have morals to flip.

So unless you want what is happening in gaza: learn to lie to your politicians.

  1. Tell them you’ll vote third party over x.
  2. Follow through if you’re in a deep blue state.
  3. Hedge your bet by voting Democrats down ballot.
  4. Always lie to pollsters about your intent for any given candidate. The less reliable polls are the better. Means your letters to your politicians are more important.
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Are you saying that if Stein dropped out, her supporters would have voted for De la Cruz?

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Learn to read:

The Green party isn’t a party worth anyone’s heart.

You don’t counter this with “we don’t really care about the Green party”. Go repeat your argument somewhere that makes sense. I don’t care about the 5D chess you think you’re playing.

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wp:2020 United States presidential election in Hawaii#Results

wp:Howie Hawkins

Howard Gresham Hawkins III[1][2] (born December 8, 1952) is an American trade unionist, environmental activist, and perennial candidate from New York. A co-founder of the Green Party of the United States, Hawkins was the party’s presidential nominee in the 2020 presidential election. His ideological platform includes enacting an eco-socialist version of the Green New Deal—which he first proposed in 2010—and building a viable, independent working-class political and social movement in opposition to the country’s two major political parties, and capitalism in general.[3]

wp:2024 United States presidential election in Hawaii#Results

Apparently RFK, Jr isn’t on the Hawaiian ballot, though your state has write-ins.

slim pickings here:

wp:2024 United States House of Representatives elections in Hawaii

however,

wp:2020 United States House of Representatives elections in Hawaii#Results 2

Aloha ʻĀina

Jonathan Hoomanawanui

6453 votes

2.37%

wp:Aloha ʻĀina Party

The Aloha ʻĀina Party (Hawaiian for “love of the land”) is a political party in the US state of Hawaiʻi that advocates for the Hawaiian sovereignty movement and the promotion of Native Hawaiian culture.[1][2]

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Why on earth would you feel compelled to educate me about my local politics by pulling up some wiki pages and then refusing to even format your message? And why the fuck would anything in this post indicate RFK might be someone to vote for? The theoretical appeal of the Greens is progressivism, not the unfortunate antivax shit that’s glommed onto it.

And Aloha Aina is the local party I had never heard of before seeing them on the ballot, which may sound good to you because you know nothing about Hawaii, but is something in the vague realm between nutjob sovereign citizen types and conservatives that can’t bear to be Republicans due to history.

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The fuck…?

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Third party candidates. The real threat to america. /s

Will she get any votes? Tune in next time on Election Ball Z!

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No joke, I know two people voting for her because they believe it demonstrates people want a third choice. Sigh.

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So they’re delusional idiots.

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If they live in swing states they are.

Ideally third party candidates could get concessions from either Republicans or democrats in exchange for an endorsement. Kennedy got some completely insane concessions from trump for example.

But Stein hasn’t been reported to have asked the dems for anything. Which means the green party is trying to get trump elected. My guess is that Stein got concessions from trump to stay in the race.

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and they are very much right. current dnc is more pathetic that any republican govt before. they could have won it by landslide by having aoc or even just putting even symbolic sanctions on israel. but they don’t to set a precedent that people’s opinion can be taken into account. instead they continue spitting on us forcing lobbyists controlled genocider to spit on their voters. not everyone is going to fall for this trick third time in a row.

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European Greens must be dumb as fuck then, because the US Green party exists to:

Get

Republicans

Elected

Every

November

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and republicans exist the dnc can put a boogeyman every election so we will have to vote for these corrupt scammers. our political system is so broken that we either get lobbyists controlled genocidal hacks or a dumb racist genocider.

its like asking to eat either dogpoop or vomited dogpoop

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Checks watch: phew, only 4 days left before the “gEnOcIdErS” leave forever.

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RemindMe! 4 days “Has Lemmy stopped talking about the genocide?”

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Not forever, they go off to join the ‘immigrant ms13 caravans!!!’ people, we’ll see then again in time for midterms.

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Two sides of the same coin am I right!? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh and other hate radio. There is no liberal comparison.

They regularly called for the death of liberals amongst other horrible shit. The toxicity comparison is ridiculous when the other side is liberals saying they wish conservative voters were not misled.

I get you don’t like the government. I don’t either, but this is not a god damned game of good cop bad cop.

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They regularly called for the death of liberals amongst other horrible shit

they are the same vocal minority as those on dnc side who have said if trumps wins then they want all muslims who didn’t vote for harris to be deported to gaza.

they two parties may not be the same but they are both bad and corrupt enough that we need to start voting them out. after 2016 primaries i have no confidence in dnc to not rig the primaries against an actual liberal candidate again.

there are easy things harris can still do to improve her chances but she is not even moral enough to disapprove genocide, progressive enough to disapprove fracking. she has failed upwards in the corrupt dnc as a token minority whose career has been of a smug prosecutor who has only looked down on minorities.

but hey why not just run a propaganda campaign against jill stein who has been pro-climate since 1998.

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Remember when abortion was legal?

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this excuse again ? talk to some women in real life ? they don’t want this cause insulted by even comparing it to butchering of all the women and children by our money ? what choice they had on getting aborted by idf ?

did she got a choice ?

or them https://truthout.org/articles/idf-shot-at-pregnant-civilian-outside-gaza-hospital-under-siege-staffer-says/ ?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/

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Still is federally

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Maybe if your candidate were more popular than a rapist felon you wouldn’t need to worry about the Greens.

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Maybe if we had an election system that wasn’t broken we wouldn’t need to worry about the Greens.

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Maybe if the electoral system hadn’t been specifically designed to give extra votes to slave states from the beginning this wouldn’t be a problem.

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It wouldn’t be this close if Harris just came out against the genocide in Gaza. Instead she has shunned Arab and Muslim voters.

I am in Pennsylvania and I am voting for Jill Stein. Everything I could have done to communicate my grievances I have tried, including meeting with my representative who just insulted me instead of even feigning humanitarian concern.

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If you vote for Jill Stein, you’re voting for Trump.

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It really wouldn’t be. Trump would be clearly winning if she did that.

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I am in Pennsylvania

Press X to doubt.

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These foreign discourse accounts really are putting in work. Anyone that can rub two braincells together can see through this bag faith argument.

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Why do you think she’d gain more voters than loose by changing her stance on Israel? There are clearly people out there who support Israel otherwise it wouldn’t even be up for debate. I haven’t seen anything indicating she’d pick up more voters by changing her stance (which is still better than Trumps).

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I can’t imagine the votes she’d gain for denouncing the war on Gaza would be bigger than the votes she’d lose for going against Israel.

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Yeah, I only bring it up because Harris’ primary goal is to win the election. It sucks, but Israel is only one element of this election and the public isn’t in agreement with it. Harris could even want to be more aggressive on it, but can’t sacrifice the election.

At the end of the day, there are two candidates. In a fptp system, you’ve got to vote for the better of the two candidates. Not voting for Harris is enabling Trump and will only lead to a worse situation in Israel.

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It wouldn’t be this close if Harris just came out against the genocide in Gaza

You’re right. If she had done that, she would be losing and it wouldn’t even be close.

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It wouldn’t be this close if Harris just came out against the genocide in Gaza

It’d be worse. Do you have any idea how much damage AIPAC would do? The majority of americans are siding with Israel. She’d get called a terrorist simp before she even finished her speech. It would be an unmitigated shit show.

I wish the american public was wiser, and recognizing how evil Israel is. But that’s not the world we live in.

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