…sometimes it does feel like this.

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Hey, we left cause of the enshitification of Reddit itself, toxicity of the users was always part of the package deal.

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As a Reddit refugee myself,I can’t disagree with that. But I will clarify that there’s generally two kinds of Reddit Refugees, though:

  • The kind that got fed up with Reddit and wants to be part of something better
  • The people who were banned from Reddit and think this is some kind of safe haven to continue acting on their worst impulses that got them banned elsewhere.

The meme is largely referencing the latter.

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25 points

to continue acting on their worst impulses

I feel seen.

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As do I, mind you my worse impulses are just me being bloodthirsty. But John Brown was also somewhat bloodthirsty and I dont see anyone of deserving of life criticizijg him.

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17 points

I hope I’m in the first category. This place has less people but better engagement.

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8 points

You should know what category you fall into… It’s not like getting banned and going somewhere else is an event chain you wouldn’t know about.

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12 points

I came because Reddit’s a shitty company and due to the ban of 3rd party apps. Which group am I?

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7 points

Mine, apparently. Sup, mate!

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4 points

Meh. Maybe I’m just not in the wrong corners of the Lemmy fediverse, but honestly I’m not really seeing very many of the banned finding their way here. That was a huge problem in the cesspools like Voat, but for whatever reason it seems like Lemmy has mostly been spared, in my limited experience at least.

That said, yeah there’s a fair amount of blunt talking and general mild misanthropy, but frankly I almost welcome that as a change from the overmoderated sterility of corporate spaces like Reddit which have to think in terms of advertiser-friendliness.

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3 points

Have you ever blocked anyone at all? Or a community, or perhaps your feed is always set to Subscribed? Most of us readily forget what Lemmy looks like to a day-1 account. It takes a bit of effort to clean it up, and if they don’t see the value in remaining then they won’t put in that effort to learn, rather than simply leave.

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Yes exactly. When reddit pulled that api pricing shit, I just got up and left. I came here expecting shitposts, braindead “hot” takes, piss-poor reading comprehension, and americans acting like they’re the only country in the world. I got exactly what I expected and I couldn’t be more satisfied, 10/10 would nuke my reddit account again.

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4 points

Don’t you mean 5/7?

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6 points

They’ve started putting multiple adds in the middle of comment sections now

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4 points

Toxic users lead to greater engagement and line go up.

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It’s worth noting that some users might be attracted to Lemmy due to its smaller, more niche communities and the sense of belonging that comes with being part of a smaller, specialized group. Others might be drawn to Lemmy’s technical aspects, such as its use of ActivityPub and its potential for customization and modification.

Some users might also be deterred from Lemmy, but please do not let this distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.

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I haven’t seen this shit in years. I used to browse reddit and that shit would always crack me up. This one time I was browsing at like 3AM and everyone was asleep. I laughed so hard I woke my little brother up. My dad came out of his room super pissed off. He just glared at me and walked straight out to the garage. When he came back he beat living shit out of me with a set jumper cables. Anyway, I stopped browsing reddit late at night after that.

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5 points

Found you Roger Simon.

Thanks for the blast from the past lol.

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3 points

Fucking hell that escalated quickly

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3 points

sniff… the good ol’ Lemmy switcheroo

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most of the toxicity I’ve experienced on lemmy has been from established users so idk… but I should add that it’s way less toxic than reddit so far

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28 points

It’s gotten pretty bad on the politics front lately. It’s like an entirely different community now compared to last year

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14 points

I hope it dies down after the election but I’m not getting hopes up

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The election was going to make the Russian bots start shit stirring, but what really got Lemmings at each others’ throats was the Palestinian genocide.

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2 points

It kinda depends on the outcome. If Trump wins it’ll get substantially worse.

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I make a point to just not open any thread that mentions US Politics.

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Me trying to explain that I couldn’t care less about how much they hate fascism:

Impossible

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Couldn’t

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Overall it’s less toxic than Reddit, as evidenced by how many people were lurkers there but here actually feel comfortable enough to open up and contribute.

I note that you are on Lemmy.World, which blocks some of the most well-known trolling instances. That indeeds helps a ton, though means that the experiences of someone who joined e.g. lemm.ee instead are going to be quite different.

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Blocking is key. Once I started blocking some communities, my Lemmy experience got a lot better.

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8 points

It’s just less people. People will always be people wtv they are.

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7 points

Less focus by Russian bot farms to steer the discussion.

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3 points

Indeed, fuck Russia.

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4 points

Well, most users here are former/current Reddit users, but somehow a lot of them think that it’s less toxic here.

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57 points

Yea no. Try having a nuanced discussion on any (insert heated topic here) on Lemmy and watch the labels fly out faster than the ejaculate of a post pubescent 15 year old.

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Don’t worry. We’ll make butter milk out of it lol

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5 points

It seriously cannot get any worse. Bring on users from any platform. Lemmy sucks and i thank the mods of smaller subs that post diligently about enthusiast topics to add content that isnt dystopian sad sack circlejerk

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Honestly I’d rather be called a lib tankie 100x than get banned because I said the wrong thing to an actual fascist. Leftists infight, none of us are above that, so one always has to remember that the vegan prick you’re arguing with will still eat the rich with you.

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5 points

I think I agree but part of me wonders when the purity testing actually stops…

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Like we’ll be eating some rich people and suddenly the rich guy I’m eating is not lefty halal because they aren’t organic or grass fed or some shit.

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70 points

You’ll find that anywhere. Not just on the Internet, either. Literally, everywhere.

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26 points

High school never ends.

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7 points

True, but Reddit had the right conditions for toxicity to grow and begin to run rampant. Lemmy, with its decentralized nature, should limit the spread of any toxic communities.

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I dont think it will limmits it at all it will spread so u end uo wirh multiple communities for the same thibg with different flavours of toxicity. We already have that with world news ie the .ml flavour of toxicity vs the other instances with differing flavours

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The .ml situation predates the whole reddit thing, no?

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You should check out Facebook, Twitter, IRC, NextDoor, 4chan, 9gag, or any other Internet forum (including comment sections of news articles). Reddit does not hold exclusive rights to any “right conditions for toxicity to grow”.

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Yeah, there’s lots of places with rampant toxicity. I was just comparing reddit and lemmy, and I consider the Federated nature of lemmy to help prevent (not necessarily stop) toxicity from growing.

I’m not an expert on this whole Federated thing, but to me, it sounds like if one community is having problems with another, they can just disassociate and not have to deal with it anymore.

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I think the difficulty will be the slippery and nebulous definition of “toxic”

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It’s more easily expressed when people don’t have to directly face the sensitivity of the other humans. For example, from inside a car, in an online competitive game or an online forum.

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😠

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