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This entire war was a useless bullshit excuse for NATO countries and arms dealers to dump their military surplus and profit off of the needless slaughter of tens of thousands of people on both sides using Ukranian civilians to fight a proxy war with Putin. This utter waste of life would never have happened if the west didn’t interfere in Ukrainian politics in the early 2010s, or allowed peace talks to occur unobstructed between Russia and Ukraine in the early days of the war. Total deaths on both sides now is estimated to be 1 million people and a lot of Ukraine has been destroyed. How fucked is this.

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It hasn’t even begun to be fucked

Wait until the blowback from shipping Nazis an arsenal

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26 points

when was it ever a stalemate? is that what they’ve been deluding themselves with?

Russia has just been bleeding Ukraine and NATO the whole time i thought

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Well you see there have been no Big Arrow Movestm for a while, so clearly it is a stalemate and Russia isn’t just pursuing a strategy of steady attrition which infinitely favors them.

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16 points

yeah but you gotta pivot the narrative somehow

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24 points

how do i know if this is just propaganda to get more money for ukraine

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38 points

Because it’s been not a stalemate for a while and they’re just now finally admitting it. Things have been going terrible for Ukraine since the foolish occupation of kursk

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32 points

They were going pretty badly even before that, but Kursk stunt was likely the catalyst for an all out collapse we’re seeing now.

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I wonder how much of this is building to a “welp, no point sending military aid to Ukraine anymore, let’s redirect it all to Israel” propaganda push.

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I’m sure that’s a big part of it coupled with the fact that it’s becoming impossible to pretend the war is in a stalemate when Ukraine is losing kilometres of territory on daily basis.

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