There was previously discussion about Russell Brand denying allegations that were to be shown in a TV documentary, and now things are developing.

16 points

I really liked him. Get him to the Greek is one of my favorite movies.

Innocent until proven guilty, so I’m going to hold off on judgement ( not that my judgement matters). There seems to be A LOT working against him here. He’s not cancelling tours and losing his agent if people thought this was unfair - sometimes up.

There’s a lot of rape apologists in this thread though. As much as he’s innocent before proven guilty, so is his accuser. “All it takes is an accusation to ruin a perfectly good career”. Y’all should be ashamed. That doesn’t happen without MAJOR consequences for a false accusation, as well as consequences for any media outlet that ruins the story without due diligence. It’s extremely hard to prove rape cases, meaning that if it’s gotten this far, there’s enough evidence to put it into print. This is global news, and NOBODY has come out with any compelling story as to why the accuser is lying.

Bottom line, none of us really understand what actually happened, and everyone seems too eager to write off Brand or his accuser. Chill out. More info will come.

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I’m not a real fan of his. He seems like a pretentious twat to me. I agree though, at this point it’s allegations so could be totally false. It is shit though that things like this can tarnish someone’s name when they turn out to be not guilty.

Reminds me of the “Stereophonics - A Thousand Trees” song

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Apparently, Brand has been running from this shit for a long time, and jumped on the Fascist conspiracy grift train because no reputable movie or TV studio will hire him.

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elon musk, alex jones and andrew tate are vouching for him. So he is probably guilty. If piers morgan vouches for him he is definitely guilty.

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But have Ashton and Mila written private letters to the judge yet?

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This guy always annoyed me, if he’s “censored” because of his bad behavior, I doubt many sane people will miss him. I remember seeing him on Maher (yeah, yeah, I know) not too long ago and he was just insufferable - even more so than usual. If he went down the “just asking questions” rabbit hole, that’s little surprise.

And - unfortunately, I know a lot of people like this IRL - people that started off maybe a bit wacky, but at least on the surface, lefties, only to end up voting for donnie, and going full maga, with the gear and everything. And believe me - NO ONE wants to talk to them about anything past basic weather comments; the minute they start up with the ItWasAPlandemicChineseGlobalWarmingHoaxHunterBidensLaptop stuff, people are crawling over each other to get to the exits.

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Oh my god, I remember the Maher bit, you could tell Bill was getting pissed off about this guy coming on and spewing conspiracy theories. Actively rooting against Brand ever since! I believe all these allegations are probably true, as Brand seems to have a very tenuous relationship with reality.

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I feel like theres a “clever spiral” where witty and observant people become addicted to the praise and attention they get from seeing through the bullshit and pointing out overlooked thruthisms.

The trouble is, clever isn’t the same as informed. It takes effort to be informed, to be educated, and it’s pretty easy to spot flaws in other people’s logic. It’s subtly tempting to slide from “I think we should rethink the way we treat each other,” to “Maybe there is a government conspiracy to inject mind control via vaccines.”

Because the world is fucked up, and the vast majority of people take too much for granted. They live unexamined lives, and a person can come along and hold up a mirror for laugh and profit. Eventually, though, the observant ones run out of low hanging fruit, and if they want to stay relevant, they either need to put in some effort or start making shit up.

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How to destroy anyone’s life if you hate them:

  1. Accuse them of sexual assault from 2000 years ago, and rely on dumb people’s emotions and corruption.
  2. Profit!

Clown world.

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Who’s profiting? Can you provide an example with Brands case?

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Russel Brand is fighting the establishment and hurting the big pockets, see the video below, and there’s absolutely zero proof he did anything whatsoever. It’s just anonymous with zero evidence, zero investigations, and just anonymous nonsense. Once this goes to court, then we talk about legitimacy. Innocent until proven guilty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7LgO2FIoa4

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Okay let’s rewind a bit, I asked you to provide an example of someone who was making money off this.

Saying “the establishment” and “big pockets” really isn’t cutting it, can you or can you not name one party who’s directly profiting off this? Can you actually prove the link between a victims testimony and someone being reimbursed?

I need names and dollar figures, not this sensationalist rambling.

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  1. There hasn’t been any need to fabricate sexual assault allegations. Brand has had a long history of unwanted sexual advances and in the ages before #MeToo he could get away with it. Many women have come forward with their experiences about Brand and now the police is investigating this.
  2. Brand has been trying to profit for the last few years by grifting MAGA/QAnon folks.
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The history is filled with fabricated sexual assaults. Kavanaugh, Justin Bieber, Justin Roiland, Andy Signore, and the list goes on. They all get completely destroyed before the evidence shows in the dumb court of “public opinion”, and then they get absolved of the charges because guess what… women lie, like everyone else. Humans lie. So, we have “innocent until proven guilty” and “due process”. That, or nothing. Shut your mouth and don’t make shit up. I hope this happens to you and you get destroyed and lose everything until the evidence shows you’re innocent and then no one gives a shit. Maybe then you’ll learn, you evil little piece of shit.

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