This place is going to be wall to wall moaning for the next week, isn’t it?
Don’t look up.
Wall to wall moaning is nothing compared to the incoming shit storm of the next 4 years.
I’m not even in the same hemisphere as the US, I’ll be watching with a mixture of fascination and horror.
Good luck though!
Oh trust me, the watching with a mixture of fascination and horror is coming from inside the states too.
I wish you good luck as well. I hear the US is known to fuck around with other countries occasionally. (And that’s not supposed to sound threatening - it’s just a recognition that we fuck with other countries even during “good” administrations, never mind when we have a dictator-loving wannabe in the office)
I don’t think kamala “frack the planet” harris was gonna make the environment much better
This kind of puritanical shit is pretty much how Trump won
How anyone could be delusional enough to think Trump would be better somehow for the environment is just beyond me
trump would not be better but dems have made it clear that they dont really take the environment seriously. They say its a crisis and we have to take action but then they open up more fracking and give more money to military contractors. This doesnt make me a trump voter but it does make me tune them out when they make appeals about climate because I know the dems will still sell the climate down the river in favor of big corporate lobbies when in power. That kind of double talk makes people give up on parties and stop caring.
So, naturally, you chose whoever is actually worse. Because hey at least he means what he’s saying…
Nobody’s saying that the climate denier is better for the environment. We’re saying that Kamala, who “believes in science” would be a smokescreen, just like Biden was.
If your climate agenda is to give tax credits to install heat pumps and a ton of money to EV manufacturers, and to not actually tackle the biggest polluters in the country, you don’t have a serious climate plan. Also deeply unserious is slapping tariffs on China’s affordable and reliable solar panels and EVs.
The military is a huge polluter and greenhouse gas emitter. So are suburban neighborhoods and aviation. If you can’t tackle those by realigning foreign policy, infrastructure, and urban development, then you’re not going far enough.
This won’t be solved by giving a ton of money to private companies and hoping they find a profit motive. We’d need a vast expansion of state capacity at this point.
The Inflation Reduction Act included $65 million in research grants for low emission aviation and $245 million in development of biofuel based Sustainable Aviation Fuel (aka SAF). And the $3 billion in loan guarantees for manufacturing advanced vehicle technologies included certain aircraft.
There were also $5 billion in loan guarantees for shutting down our heaviest polluting power plants or retooling them to greener generation methods.
There was $3 billion in buying zero emissions vehicles and charging infrastructure for the postal service.
The Inflation Reduction Act, which inherited a lot of the stuff from the Green New Deal, was a lot of things, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard it called deeply unserious before today.
Let’s ignore the fact that the US has become the world’s largest oil exporter under the current administration. full disclosure: not a yank
Well, we can save the planet! Kamala just has to show courage!
oh stop being the melodramatic american. the world is a huge place and is hardly affected by what happens in your local area. My country didn’t change from 2016, nor did most other countries. It is not a world-wide problem.
I’m not saying you can’t be upset, please, get mad–I’d be mad. But don’t invoke the world’s name, please, we don’t care.
I agree with the sentiment. There are so many “democracy is dead” posts that make me want to scream “motherfucker, it’s dead in America, not worldwide”. The US is one country out of over a hundred. Many of us are just glad that you’ll finally shut the fuck up about your election.
With that said, from a climate perspective it fucks everyone over. From a business perspective the economy tanking will affect markets worldwide. For Ukrainians and Palestinians, there’s a huge shift towards Russia and Israel that will be problematic for decades.
It’s americans, they’re always so dramatic. Best just ignore em
I’d say either way it the climate fucks everyone other. Democrats didn’t care for climate change except for virtue signalling, they wouldn’t have done anything, they prefer the status quo instead of acting as opposition. Probably what made them lose. And there’s also Musk, who makes a business from renewable energy, again though, that’s just virtue signalling. Business will probably thrive, honestly, more chance to exploit the working class. Ukraine will be fine, they’re supported by Europe and it’s against the US’s interests to let Europe be independent. Palestine is indeed fucked though, Iran too.
But I’m a goat, I don’t know much except for salt.
I believe it from experience. My country was unaffected by 2016. Same with my neighbouring countries. Nothing dramatic or drastic occurred.
2020 was the same.
This will also be the same.
Most countries are unaffected by other countries’ elections.
This is the proletariat view of the world.
For anyone who isn’t just a common wage worker and is aware of how markets work, it is very definitely not the case.
A cog in the machine cannot perceive the machine’s changing output.
Trump doesn’t control the military, and there’s big money to be made in war. Currently, arms manufacturers are some of the most profitable companies. Why stop that revenue? Most likely, if the US ever stops funding Ukraine, then Europe will fund Ukraine and turn more independent and away from relying on the US for defence. Why would the US want an independent Europe?
Or maybe it’s just a masterplan from Putin, who somehow, has also convinced the generals to go along with this.
If anything, I’d be more concerned about Israel and the Middle East. It’s hard to believe that right now, Israel is holding back. Watch this space, you know?
Read Project 2025. And then look at the rest of the leaders that followed Fuckface 45 and his bullshit behavior. This is going to snowball to hell and back.
I don’t care about Project 2025, it’s not my country. It doesn’t affect me in any meaningful way.
You need to remember the rest of the world isn’t as stupid as the US. All the other country’s trump wannabes got humiliated, defeated and left the political scene as losers and loners.
Quit assuming the world cares about your dumpster fire. Makes you part of the problem and even more deserving of it. I’m not saying you can’t be upset, please, get mad–I’d be mad. But don’t invoke the world’s name, please, we don’t care.
You can’t draw an imaginary line between American policy and your home country. It affects everyone when more natural disasters happen or food prices rise due to global insecurity.
People who don’t care about geopolitics are the ones who immediately turn to nationalist rhetoric when those geopolitics begin affecting them.
I think this post is about climate change, which is absolutely a global problem
Except the US won’t do anything to solve their part of climate change, and the change in leadership will not affect their inaction. I think the best bet for solving climate change is a shift to renewable energy and laws and standards for AI and bot use.
Every country also contributes to climate change. It’s not exactly an issue where you can put sole blame on someone. China for instance, emits the most CO2, but not by per capita, and also because they handle the world’s manufacturing and emissions. The Middle East, Oceania and countries below the equator all contribute more than their share of emissions… But that’s also because they’re in a hotter, drier climate.
best bet for solving climate change is a shift to renewable energy
Nuclear energy is the future. Companies like Microsoft are now using entire reactors for their AI server farms.
If you think solving climate change requires a switch to renewable energy and don’t see the difference between US Democratic and Republican Admins, you’re not approaching this from a place of rationality
In a way it’s less upsetting reading something so short-sighted, because the chance to stop it has probably passed. We’ll all find out together the massive scope of this problem.
You said the rest of the world doesn’t care, the lemmy downvote count determined that to be a lie.
oh nooo, not reddit downvotes, anything but those, I’m ruined!
Never mind the fact that Lemmy is predominantly american and that instances outside of the US haven’t gotten downvoted for also not caring. I’m trying to say is that Americans downvoted me, and those who are not American upvoted me. Still–Don’t care
Some people need social networks and a large number of users to create the bubbles of ideology they eventually become trapped in. Some people are capable of doing that all by their lonely self.
I live in Canada, so I’m obviously biased in the sense that we’re one of the countries most affected by US politics, what with them being our largest trade partner and having a massive land border with them.
That being said, are you unaware of the global rise in right-wing extremism and fascism following the 2016 election? The US is the richest country in the world, with the largest military, and they also have a tremendous amount of soft power (at least in English-speaking countries) through their cultural influence in media exports.
I don’t understand what you gain by pretending the US isn’t a massive global power with huge influence over international relations.
