ID: line drawing of an upright bunny with a black bandana tied around their neck, holding a lit match in their mouth like you might a toothpick. The text says “we can’t just vote fascism away, the time has come to disobey. (be brave!)”

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We could have voted it away. And it would have been way easier than the alternatives. But we chose not to.

But since we didn’t organize to vote it away, I’m not sure how we’re going to organize a general strike. And anything else is so difficult and so messy and has very little guarantee of improving anyone’s conditions.

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general strike.

Oh you sweet, summer child…

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No no no I’m sure you know those that couldn’t even be bothered to go vote, those people are now getting ready to man the barricades

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Exactly. I’m sure they are…

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I more meant it as “a general strike wouldn’t work”

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We could have voted it away.

Lmfao, news flash: it’s already here, has been for a while.

Never mind that never in history has tyranny ever been voted away. To think otherwise you must completely misunderstand what tyranny and fascism are, as well as how the current establishment functions.

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Vote it away. It’s been a joke for so long and people cling to the idea that it works so badly. I am Canadian. We are also past voting. The systems of government must be torn down. They are corrupt and do not work for the people.

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Hear hear…

I’m in the UK and we have the same situation + monarchy, for added funsies. I keep thinking people are getting enough of a glimpse behind the curtain at the fact that the system wasn’t designed to serve them, but to centralise power in the hands of very few people who exploit the rest to continuously strengthen their own power, but part of those efforts are the propaganda, and it just goes to show how well it works that despite so much ugly truth being revealed over and over, some people still see “my team vs your team” as the only way to exist. It’s both sad and very scary.

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just no. god damn liberals!!!

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We could have voted it away.

Don’t forget gerrymandering and other fraudulent methods of deciding victory like the electoral college being baked into this diseased system.

They only give the illusion of choice.

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None of that stopped Biden from winning last time when people actually showed the fuck up to the polls.

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The 2-parties in this monopolized system are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich. Everything is by their design. We never had a choice.

The system will never work for us, because it’s working as intended. We need to annihilate it and start from scratch. There is no fixing it from the inside and hoping the next person isn’t just another lesser evil to vote for.

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Violence is not any solution to political change. The elected president of the United States is Donald Trump, and while I and many others are not happy, violence is not any answer to an outcome you don’t favor. You people disgust me, and while I’m largely sure half of you live in Moscow, it’s still unacceptable and unamerican to even talk of violence like this.

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Congratulations on siding with and enabling fascism! 🎉🎉🎉

E: Oh, and just to give you a clue, not that you’d let it penetrate your well maintained wall of wilful ignorance: we aren’t the ones inflicting violence, we are the ones fighting back in self defence. You are the one on the wrong side of history.

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I’m not saying people should jump to violence, but to say it’s never the answer is nieve. Would you say Hitler shouldn’t have been violently opposed?

Get organized and work for good. Build your community, join mutual aid groups, and do whatever you need to do. Also, be prepared for whatever may come. If violent resistance is needed, be ready. Hopefully it isn’t but, as Thomas Jefferson said:

“[W]hat country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Don’t give up hope. If they want to bring fascism, make them fight for it. Don’t let them have it for free.

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You are a reasonable person with reasonable opinions and are entirely correct. Those in this thread explicitly calling for violence deserve our condemnation.

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I’m tired of “being the bigger person”. Four years ago, Trump wouldn’t even admit that he lost the election. They’re hitting below the belt, and we have one hand behind our back.

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Pro-Toupee people are Russian bots, pro-third party people are Russian bots, anti-genocide people are Russian bots, anyone who wasn’t enthusiastically a right-of-center Democrat is a Russian bot.

I had no idea so many people are all Russian bots!

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I’m not sure they are going so hard right now, since the election is done, but the Russian trolling strategy was to sow division by pushing every side of every conflict further to the extremes.

Like say for feminism, there would be some claiming feminists are just anti-man and want to replace the patriarchy with a matriarchy, others would be pushing the message that men are evil and shouldn’t be trusted, while others would be saying women belong in the kitchen to serve their husbands and sons, and yet others would be complaining that men never listen. And they’d do all of this loudly with the hope of drowning out the more reasonable and moderate positions and make it an unsolvable issue because all sides don’t think there’s any compromise possible.

And once you know the pattern, it’s visible all over the fucking place.

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Agree, trolls sowing division among society are unquestionably everywhere, operating in countless way, some more direct, some more veiled. But why is it always russian trolls? Don’t you think that others have the motive and tools required to influence societal behavior in a way that aligns with their interests? And don’t you see how the very dismissing of opinions differing to one’s own as trolls is in itself keeping us separated?

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“We can’t just vote fascism away”

Well, if you’d voted for Harris we could have, but have fun doing it you way, especially now that the military will be standing by to kill your asses on sight.

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Trump losing elections doesn’t change the people who vote for fascists. We can vote out Trump, we can’t vote out the corrupt police, the companies that enable and fund it, and the mass media that supports him.

Trump is the symptom of a larger disease.

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Since you can’t bother to formulate an original thought, I won’t bother providing an original reply, here’s a copy pasted one I made earlier:

Lmfao, news flash: it’s already here, has been for a while.

Never mind that never in history has tyranny ever been voted away. To think otherwise you must completely misunderstand what tyranny and fascism are, as well as how the current establishment functions.

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I believe, if we get to that point, a large portion of the military will be on our side. There are still a lot of good people in the military that, if it’s turned inward, won’t follow those unlawful orders.

I also had hope that Trump wouldn’t have won the election though, so this could be wrong.

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They definitely won’t be on your side. Of course some will have qualms about carrying out those orders against their own people, but for various psychological reasons, they’ll go along. The best chance is if the military leadership refuses to give the unlawful orders to their troops.

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Yeah, a lot of the leadership wouldn’t follow that order is what I was implying. The grunts would then have to decide who’s orders are valid and figure out what side they’re on.

If Trump uses the military on citizens, I’m reasonably confident that’s the start of US Civil War II.

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about %50 not voted for Trump maybe less than %1 of that willing for armed resistance. about %50 voted for trump half of which is masturbating to the idea of being able to use their guns on the other side.

time to be realistic…

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Or time to invest in ballistics.

Really though, gunnuts come in all shapes. I think you might see a lot more left leaning ones popping up.

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Everyone’s fantasy of armed and organized leftist resistance would’ve been a lot easier to do without right-wing extremists in control of the federal government.

If you are organizing publicly online, they aren’t going to just sit back, they are going to come for you.

This is going to be a repeat of iran in '79. Leftists will be wiped out.

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Organizing gives them a way to find you. Act alone, together.

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We have at methods of decentralized encrypted communication. There are ways to organize securely.

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Just a warning, and I’m hoping we never get to this point, but you’re wrong. The issue isn’t that the technology doesn’t work. The issue is the more people in the loop the easier it is to infiltrate. If you’re organizing to do crime, communicate as little of it as possible, even if it’s encrypted. The encryption only protects the message from being seen by outsiders and doesn’t prevent an insider from being a spy.

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