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When she sat down on The View and said she wouldn’t change a thing compared to Biden that was a messaging problem. People can’t afford rent and grocery inflation is out of control and she thinks everything is fine and dandy? I voted for her but I’m kind of sick of being a perpetual afterthought who has been voting for the lesser of two evils for over 20 years. They dumped the working class in favor of chasing an imaginary pool of moderates and this is the result. Give us someone we can be passionate about and, even if they’re lying, at least pretend to tell us what we want to hear.

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Grocery inflation is, in fact, not out of control: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/

I’m so tired of hearing that. But I guess that’s part of her messaging problem. She couldn’t get through to people looking at high prices and assuming they’re still rising.

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12 points

Food inflation is outpacing wage growth

People don’t give a shit what the CPI is

Their grocery runs cost more for less food, so there is a problem with wage growth or food prices that the Dems are not willing to acknowledge

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Food prices are a component of CPI. Food inflation is also around 2%, which is like the ideal inflation rate: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/food-inflation-in-the-united-states/

Note that it was out of control a couple years ago, which is why prices went way up. I haven’t looked at the statistics, but what I have heard is that wage growth, generally, has caught up to inflation, which includes food prices. This is still a feels over reals situation. People feel that their food is too expensive, and Republicans are way better at addressing the feels. One of my favorite signs around the neighborhood said “TRUMP LOW PRICES || KAMALA HIGH PRICES”. Like, yeah, that definitely makes sense. Well explained.

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That’s because low inflation does not mean prices come back down, which is what people expect. So technically inflation is not out of control. But prices are still high. That’s what people mean.

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That’s exactly what I said.

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Grocery inflation is also a result of price gouging, not the economy.

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What do you think the economy is? It is made up of price gouging and parapsychology <yes I know that’s ghosts>

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Its not out of control now, but that doesn’t cancel out previous high inflation rates on things. If people wages haven’t kept up then they may not be able.to still afford the standard of living they had a few years ago.

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The problem with that was that she was actually answering the question, correctly and analytically. They actually made the right decisions, even if the supply chain was still a problem. Not much the president can do about that global problem.

even if they’re lying

Yeah you get it. She didn’t do the politician thing where you answer adjacently.

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38 points

Republicans have a vision. Democrats have a list of policy proposals. Average people can grok the vision but since they read at a 6th grade level they don’t grok the policy proposals.

Democrats need to stop acting like nerds if they want more people to like them.

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But I was told it was just that our policy proposals weren’t left enough?

Unironically, you’re right. Most voters don’t vote based on any kind of coherent ideology. They vote on feels.

God help us all.

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If the policy proposals were far left enough they’d start to look a helluva lot more like a vision.

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Ha. There is that.

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I want a country where everyone pays less for healthcare. If it can be done for seniors, why not everyone else?

I want a country where everyone’s private medical decisions remain between them and their doctor, without being cleared by your local, state, or federal representative or by a judge.

I want a country where everyone who works, pays taxes, and does not commit violent crime or property theft can stay and keep working without having to look over their shoulder.

I want a country where if you work full time, you can afford your rent/mortgage, put food on the table, start a family, and still be able to retire.

There’s a vision. Apparently all of these things have become radically progressive leftist positions and are attacked as such by the media and conservatives alike.

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See, the problem with all of these ideas is that they’re at odds with the billionaires’ vision that you slave away in servitude to them, while their imaginary worth line goes up to infinity.

It’s really nothing more complex than that. And, as soon as the non-billionaire conservatives—your neighbors, your coworkers, the people you pass by every day—wake up and understand that they’re covered by that vision, too, the sooner things get better for all of us.

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With capitalism, a middle class does not occur organically, it is created by the governing body through subsidies. If you do not subsidize a middle class there can be no middle class. This is fundamental. We really started to feel it in 2015 or so. I called it the squeeze. This tightening grip of not subsidies but further attempts to squeeze more and more blood from rocks.

Why? Our government has been subsidizing the wrong class for a while now. Trump did kick that up a notch the first time. The data is in. Trickle down economics doesn’t work.

As with a middle class, health care has to be subsidized. The governing body won’t allow richer people to pay the same taxes as the poorest of us so that will never happen.

And now Elon Musk is promising “hardship” going forward, as opposed to whatever this is the last 4 yrs, on us, the poorest, rather than paying mor taxes himself. Like that would impact his alien ass at all (he’s weirdly shaped, looks like a slightly melted wax museum figure, and was born into so much money he has no idea how humans live, that’s what I mean by alien). So don’t count on it ever happening going forward.

If you have preexisting conditions expect loss of coverage. And as a fallout from that expect the healthcare system to get slammed with much sicker people trying to find loopholes and other diagnoses so they can actually keep living and working.

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How the fuck do democrats win here then? After the Harris/Dump debate i feel like there was a lot of conjecture about how Harris didnt talk about policy enough. How do you get away with talking about policy but not “sounding like a nerd” to uneducated voters? See I think this is more about the average voter not being educated enough to understand the issues and the policies potential nominees have pertaining to them, or how their lives would be affected depending who/what they vote for.

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Start offering policies that help average people. Run on medicare for all. Run on forcing pharmaceutical companies lowering drug prices. Run on building new factories to create solar panels, geothermal equipment, and wind turbines. Run on creating affordable housing and ending corporate landlords. Run on campaign finance reform with a promise of ending political ads that everyone hates.

The Democrats problem is tha they won’t do any of that because their donors dont want it. But as long as the DNC values their donorsore than their voters, they will continue to lose elections.

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The Democrats don’t win here.

Just like the Tea Party transformed the GOP, we need a Guillotine Party to drag the Democratic party to the electorate.

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i feel like there was a lot of conjecture about how Harris didnt talk about policy enough

Yeah, from other nerds

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How about do basic stuff that people understand …

… like tax the hell out of billionaires and use the money on people in the country.

… stop financing overseas wars and use that free money on people in the country

… then just keep repeating and blasting everyone that all the money the government is collecting from rich idiots and not spending on war is being spent on everyone … rinse, repeat 10,000 times.

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Yep. And there’s precedent for this. (Even though with this Supreme Court precedent counts for jack shit…)

Every time Bernie got asked a question he’d turn it around to mentioning the top 1% and how they’re fucking us over. And people liked him for it. I had MAGA hat folks tell me they liked him because of it back in 2016.

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MAGA would say that and vote straight R

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Republicans also like to defund public schools and or encourage people to go to religious private schools. That way they’re either too dumb to vote for policies, or too indoctrinated to vote for the candidate that isn’t promising Christian nationalism.

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you are incorrect.

Republicans are scared of brown people, and they cried about it.

democrats closed the border, reformed border control, and have set up a rational immigration system to allow as many legal immigrants into the country as the system can provide for and integrate into the US economy.

Republicans are scared of vaccines, and they cried about it.

democrats got vulnerable populations vaccinated.

Republicans are afraid of other countries exports, and they cried about it.

democrats increased employment, supported domestic businesses and funded domestic production.

Republicans quake in their boots, democrats take action.

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Republicans won the last election.

Democrats… didn’t.

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dems won the election before that.

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Do they have a vision? The scary thing about Trump that it’s uncertain what he will do the next 4 years. Will he undo democracy or keep it? Will he continue to support Ukraine or not? Will he leave NATO or not? Will he impose those tariffs or not? Will he apply project 2025 or not? Will he impose a federal abortion ban or not?

Kamala had a clear but boring vision: 4 more years of the current status quo. Nothing new will happen.

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It’s right there on the hat: Make America Great Again.

And the neat part is it’s so vague that people can project whatever they want onto it.

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Well that part I’m aware of, but that’s more of a slogan rather than a vision. It doesn’t tell what has gone wrong with America and how to fix it. Trump says a lot of things that sometimes contradict each other or may or may not be taken seriously, so it’s difficult to piece together a concrete vision.

They have a concept of a vision so to say.

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He has concepts of a plan

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“You talk like a f*g” vibes

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Democrats have a list of milquetoast, bottom of the barrel obvious stuff that they hope could show bipartisanship, and even then they half-ass it. There is real fixing that needs to get done, but the side they isn’t actively making things worse has no will to actually do it.

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Democrat: *pushes up glasses, adjusts pocket protector* “Um, we propose to implement a 2-10% excise tax on health insurance plans which will allow us to increase access to Medicare by 16% according to these models.”

Voters: “I just want health care.”

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Exactly. Tiny bullshit, when they should be talking universal healthcare

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The problem is the Democrats are scared to push back hard, they try to move to the right to capture moderate voters, and then lose 10x as many voters to the left who don’t care enough to vote because the Democrats are trying to make concessions with absolute lunatics.

The DNC seems like it just doesn’t have a spine. Doesn’t matter now, it’s all fucked and it’s too late.

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She literally called him a fascist. It’s that not enough pushback?

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People don’t care about shit like that. They want to know what you are gonna do to make their lives better.

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And no matter what, nothing that is said will be listened to.

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She literally allowed him to walk the streets for 4 years after an insurrection, accepted endorsements from war criminals, and snubbed her nose to millions of people who were aghast at a genocide being committed on the other side of the world by a government that supported her opponent with every tool it had.

This defeat was not guaranteed, it was earned.

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Not if she promotes similar fascist ideas like deporting immigrants and funding genocide.

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She didn’t? I believe that’s exactly what she came across as when she said she wouldn’t do anything different if she were to call the shots instead of Biden and also reminded everyone she signed off on most of his decisions. Sure, she lost votes because of sexism as well, but instead of fresh air she chose to bring stale coffin smell to the fart battle and lost to the stink Trump was all too happy to discharge. And that coffin did smell of a old white dude, let me tell you.

That being said, for such a gigantic loss against someone as obnoxious as Trump, there had to be a lot of factors in play. Sexism and stagnation of the party being just a tip of the iceberg.

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The main problem is that Democrats do not have a propaganda machine like the Republicans do. It does not matter what the message is if it constantly gets drowned out by the unceasing flood of propaganda coming from the right.

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The right isn’t the problem. Our problem is a lack of a left. The Tea Party managed to resuscitate the GOP about 4 terms ago. We need a Guillotine Party to drag the Democrats away from corporate American and back to the electorate.

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The lack of a left isn’t the problem. It’s the left rejecting the center that’s the problem.

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