On election night, as the results looked to be in Trump’s favor, the baseless conspiracy theories about fraud began tapering off.

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Isn’t that weird?

It’s almost like they didn’t believe in their own claims.

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Or they don’t want anyone investigating their victory too closely

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They already caught republicans doing shady shit before Tuesday. Who knows how many they didn’t catch.

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No, the narrative just changed. Good luck convincing anyone the 2020 election wasn’t stolen ever again.

“I told you. In 2020 we won all 50 states. Voter fraud by the millions. I was saying it all along. But we worked hard, we passed laws for election integrity, we watched the polls and they couldn’t cram their 10, 15 million votes into the boxes again. And look what happened. Instead of winning by 8 million votes, she lost by 6 million votes. Which is what should have happened last time.”

This is the narrative I’ve been hearing. The voters that just stayed home simply never existed in the first place, as far as they’re concerned. He’s going to use this victory as proof of his claim that he should have won last time, voter fraud was rampant, and Democrats are cheaters. And it’s going to work.

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And it’s going to work.

Well, let’s face it - the target audience for such stupid narratives are his base, and they are dumb as a box of rocks.

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Please don’t insult them. Boxes of rocks can still serve a purpose and don’t deserve to be denigrated like that.

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No box of rocks ever called me a ______. Insert a slur!

No box of rocks ever had his picture taken with Jeffrey Epstein!

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8 points

Remember that half of the population is below average.

I’m assuming that other 2% had other motivations.

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That’s honestly now how averages work. Most of the population is roughly average.

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Below average? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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Should we tell him who was president in 2020 and who was president in 2024? Oh right, it doesn’t matter to them as long as they repeat it a million times.

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And used to support the claim to change voting in some way, or do away with it at least for Federal level.

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No, not true. They are saying that this time they knew to watch close, so the Democrats couldn’t pull of the same fraud as 2020. They are indeed stating that it is “supisious” that 13 Million Democratic voices where nowhere to be seen this time around, taking that as proof they were right all along.

That’s how this works. You take reality and then make it mean what you want it to mean. So that’s their take in regards to voter fraud.

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That’s how this works. You take reality and then make it mean what you want it to mean.

What’s “fun” is when you realize an awful lot of people do this with an awful lot of topics all the fucking time. Probably including yourself.

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I would say everyone does it. Confirmation bias isn’t something you can completely avoid. You can try to recognise it in yourself, but most of the time it’s a lot more subtle. As simple as reading something you agree with and not going to check the source. We ALL do that.

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Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug

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Absolutely. I try to counter it by beeing aware and checking M opinions against facts where possible. But I am sure there are many topics where I don’t fully succeed or I haven’t caught myself doing it yet.

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It’s an extremely common aspect of human psychology to make up a story to explain the results of an event or reasoning for your actions after the fact.

It’s even been demonstrated in specific cases in studies of people who’ve received brain hemisphere bifurcation to prevent grand mal seizures.

The side of the brain responsible for speech is not shown information or things the individual must complete, then when asked why they performed such an action, the speech responsible side of the brain will spontaneously make up a resonable sounding story to explain it.

I highly recommend checking it out. It’s an absolutely fascinating look into human psychology

I’m sure I do this same thing all the time subconsiously, and I’ve certainly noticed it in others.

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Sounds like free-wil denial pseudo-science

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You really have to be a stupid person to be a Republican these days. Wild.

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Given their penchant for projection, has anyone considered that the fraud was coming from inside the house?

I believe we have one of the most secure elections in the world. I don’t believe in conspiratorial bullshit. I’m just saying, anything the Republicans accuse others with is frankly evidence that they are doing it themselves.

They tell me immigrants are eating pets? Yeah I’m going to say there’s definitely a non-zero chance that republicans are out there picking up roadkill cats and dogs. I mean Kennedy has probably done that 100 times himself.

So if the Republicans accuse Democrats of creating millions of fake votes I doubt it’s possible to do, but let’s double check anyway because now they’ve made me suspicious.

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They literally had their supporters burn drop-off ballot boxes and destroy ballots. They literally intimidated other voters. They harassed poll workers and volunteers whose entire purpose is to ensure everyone who is eligible to vote has everything they need in order to do so. Yet no one is batting a fucking eye. THESE FUCKERS STOLE THE ELECTION. 15 million less votes than what Biden got and Trump got about the same as he did when he ran before. This stinks of interference.

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I don’t think that the physical interference would have been enough to turn this one. The interference in the media/social media however was definitely the root cause to this. Along with Democrats shifting more right than they have in decades

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Can we also consider that intentionally making it harder to vote in Democrat leaning counties in otherwise Republican States is electoral fraud? Because it kinda is.

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If you remove the word kinda, your comment becomes true

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I believe we have one of the most secure elections in the world.

That’s unfortunate.

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It’s very true. Voter fraud is statistically non-existent here.

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I know this to be true, and I am very angry at the mistakes the Dems made in this campaign. But 15 million less Democrat voters? That seems like a LOT of people deciding to stay home. If you told me Jill Stein got 15 million votes, I’d find that easier to believe than 15 million just stayed home compared to 2020.

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My co-worker and I were talking about that last night. I told her that it’s amazing that not one fucking republican as uttered those two words, “voters fraud”, since Tuesday night. Isn’t it amazing how that is no longer a problem??? The fucking hypocrites!!!

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I told her that it’s amazing that not one fucking republican as uttered those two words, “voters fraud”, since Tuesday night.

Oh, I’ve heard them use those words, mostly in context of claiming that their watchful eyes prevented those evil Democrats from being able to do it this time. You know, because the party that can’t win without voter suppression and gerrymandering believes that they are the party that can’t lose without voter fraud.

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It’s always projection. ALWAYS.

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