We need to start calling liberals what they are. Conservatives.
And we need to start calling the conservatives what they are. Authoritarian elites.
Go touch grass. You’d rather divide the left instead of unite and push back against actual fascism. Only people who say this sort of shit are people who are chronically online and completely disconnected from reality
Get your head out of your ass. There’s a reason why Progressives keep getting frustrated. We’re literally the liberals reaching across the aisle and voting for conservatives. It’s not condemnation, it’s just reality.
And I’ll vote for a conservative who supports freedom over an authoritarian any day. If anything it’s admirable that that both the liberals and conservatives in the party work together as well as they do.
We are the freedom party. And the other party is authoritarian.
By definition absolutely. But most countries’ “Liberal Party” is almost always conservative.
Not by definition at all.
A political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
It’s not necessarily right either, but it’s closer to that than left.
Just to add a little bit to it:
“The greatest good for the greatest number”, a basic leftwing principle, sometimes collides with “everybody should be free to do what they want with their own things and willing adults”, a basic liberal principle, for example when it comes to some people excessivelly hoarding resources or using their ownership of an exclusive resource to extract rents from others, because it goes against the “greatest good for the greatest number” even whilst it is aligned with the whole freedom to do what they want with their own things.
At other times both are perfectly aligned: for example when it comes to the freedom from discrimination for those with a different sexual orientation than the majority, since that freedom both fulfills the “the greatest good” principle and the “freedom to do what they want” one.
Now, if one really digs down on it, maximum freedom turns out to actually require different ownership laws (if exclusive resources have owners rather than being shared, then the freedom of the non-owners is being restricted), but in decades of following and even being involved in politics, I have yet to hear a single Liberal (even those who supposedly are not Neoliberal) even mention that specific form (probably the most widespread and highest impact one) of restriction on the Freedom of most people, much less suggest changing it.
The entire population except for fringe groups of terminally online leftists: Yes.
Americans are so divisive they love to hate even on their own side. No true leftists, according to all of them
Left-wing can be relative to the nation. The most meaningful faction of American “left” is the Democratic Party. The global definition is based on socialist vs capitalist ideological splits, in which all forms of ideological liberalism are right wing or, in the case of social democracy, arguably what centrist actually means.
The Democratic Party is therefore left-wing internally and right-wing globally, thus people saying “America does not have a left wing.”
Leftists are socialists. It is not relative. Democrats are not leftists. Bernie Sanders is, as a democratic socialist. You are not “An American leftist” because you like billionaires existing but don’t want to genocide brown and gay people. That’s just liberalism as it is supposed to be.
This is also why a leftist would deny that “liberalism” is left wing. Liberalism is a broad ideological judgement and can be assumed to be using the global standards as a result, America does not have sole claim to defining it. So American liberals are the American left, but liberalism itself is right-wing.
This really isn’t that complicated if you know the basic meanings of the words in question, which is why liberals find it so confusing. Liberalism is the status quo position of the American electorate and moving beyond it requires education while going along with the binary party politics does not.
Edit: this was supposed to be a response to the first comment instead of me telling OP things they already know
