This was a trolley problem in real life, and these voters all selected the most immoral and unethical choice.
Ah yes, the trolley problem, a philosophical thought experiment which famously has a moral and an immoral choice.
The trolley problem has always been really interesting to me, not because of the problem as it is usually considered, but because of the framing of the problem.
We could stop the trolley, derail the trolley, hop on board the trolley and take control of it. All of these, and more, are within our power.
But those are not valid choices. The trolley must not be stopped, even if the trolley will end all human life.
We can only choose whether the trolley goes left, or right.
We must never ask who put the people on the track, or why we can’t protect people from the excesses of the trolley.
It’s also a thought experiment taking place during a short, discrete moment of time on the track. What if you stretch out the track by years? The path that seemed good before may have way more people tied to it in the long run.
That’s how I saw it if the Dems felt they could get away with doing a genocide forever without a political consequence. I mean, it’s hard to get much worse than that, but if the Dems feel they can do anything as long as it’s one step less out loud evil than what the fascist Republicans are doing, and the Republicans keep sprinting right as fast as possible, there’s literally nothing that will stop them from later abandoning those other groups people liked to put on the trolley as being saved if Harris got into office.
It’s not like it’s a hard problem in philosophy, it’s more a metric for how an ethical system views problems.
The problem here is that reducing US politics to one action in one event and not looking at the long term ramifications is, well, silly. People kept going “trolley problem, trolley problem, trolley problem” on lemmy, twitter and elsewhere, but the problem was actually much more complicated than this extremely simple and contextless thought experiment.
Except Biden was trying to get a ceasefire done and supported a two state solution. Harris publicly called for a ceasefire. Trump called for Netanyahu to “finish the job”
These guys have unlimited faith in empty promises when it’s coming from their guy. How many months of genocide does it take for them to realize that the Democrats are also pushing just as hard for a 1 state solution for Israel.
Publicly calling for a ceasefire while actively sending the better armed/funded side however many billion dollars a year of weapons. Wow.
But he sanctioned four settlers for a few days! He’s big mad!
Also love how all the talk of the totally real arms embargo set to trigger after the election has pretty much disappeared from all public consciousness. Like, wouldn’t now be a good time to prove that you’re the “harm reduction” party? Guess we’ll find out in one day…
Obama promised to shut down the cia blacksite at Guantanamo Bay, libs memory holed that too. Heck Raegan promised to Make america Great Again.
Bread and circuses
THEY DIDN’T! THEY JUST DIDN’T VOTE! HOW IS THIS SO HARD TO GET? HARRIS LOST 11 MILLION VOTES! GET THIS THRU YOUR DENSE SKULL THEY JUST DIDN’T VOTE
:nerd: it would be better under Harris because even though the west bank would be de facto annexed, it would still de jure not be
If only Harris could have done something to win their vote. Too bad she had to campaign on doing genocide more than Joe does it.
JOE BIDEN IS STILL THE PRESIDENT, YOU GHOULS. The PFLP said “boycott Holden Bloodfeast” and every dedicated internationalist took the word of the resistance movement over the concerns of people whose analysis of the situation amounts to “everything is permissible unless you’re on the wrong team”.
Libs telling us how they really feel. And what they feel is morally superior and genocidal hate against the poors, Muslims, Latinos, etc. Many of the comments don’t even pretend about making a distinction between Trump voters and all these groups. They all apparently deserve what’s coming to them, for being part of some group that maybe voted for Trump more than previously, but less than the (white) middle class a number of these assholes admit to being part of.
